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Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:35 am
by Atario
Careful, I didn't say "better swimmer", I said "stronger swimming legs". To make Rin's case, I would guess doing everything in daily life with your legs/feet one would normally do with one's arms/hands (on top of the normal leg/feet activities) would give greatly enhanced control and natural endurance.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:09 am
by ProfAllister
Atario wrote:Careful, I didn't say "better swimmer", I said "stronger swimming legs". To make Rin's case, I would guess doing everything in daily life with your legs/feet one would normally do with one's arms/hands (on top of the normal leg/feet activities) would give greatly enhanced control and natural endurance.
"Stronger swimming legs" is actually what clinches it for Emi. The added length of the lower legs add a small degree of leverage (most of the lever advantage is lost due to their tapering), but are primarily there for control/steering. Admittedly, without prosthetics, Emi's legs won't do much, more powerful or no. But if you're measuring raw strength, no contest. Runners have extremely powerful thighs - especially sprinters like Emi.

If it were the general question of "who's better with their legs?" an argument could be made for Rin, but her primary advantage is control. She doesn't exercise much, and is a bit on the skinny/undernourished side, per the VN. When it comes to raw power, though, there's really no contest.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:13 am
by bhtooefr
It's implied that Emi also has decent upper body strength, too - IIRC, that was demonstrated both when Emi picked Hisao up off the track, and during their first sex scene.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:23 am
by Atario
Well, ok. By "stronger" I meant more effective at swimming, not just exerting more force or causing faster propulsion.

So we're saying having controllable feet is of no help? And the flexibility?

Side note: would Rin be most effective not by kicking, but by undulating like a fish?

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:25 am
by bhtooefr
Emi does have the option of swimming prosthetics, though, which could give her even more of an advantage. (Mind you, Rin could also put flippers on.)

And, given that Emi does have full use of her arms, she can get more control and propulsion there.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:58 pm
by Xanatos
Rin because strictly speaking, prosthetics aren't legs. :P

But if we ignore that, Emi wins out.

And Rin's natural swimming method is to wiggle about like a big fish, so she doesn't need her legs anyway.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:36 pm
by pandaphil
Yep.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:05 pm
by Atario
pandaphil wrote:Yep.
Not to derail again, but just remember for a second that her changing into that suit required Emi's help.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:28 pm
by Xanatos
Atario wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Yep.
Not to derail again, but just remember for a second that her changing into that suit required Emi's help.
Not necessarily Emi's either...Oh, the possibilities.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:49 am
by pandaphil
Atario wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Yep.
Not to derail again, but just remember for a second that her changing into that suit required Emi's help.

Your point is?

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:01 am
by Atario
pandaphil wrote:
Atario wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Yep.
Not to derail again, but just remember for a second that her changing into that suit required Emi's help.

Your point is?
To allow us all to take a moment to enjoy imagining the process. Hmmm~…

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:03 am
by pandaphil
Atario wrote:

Your point is?
To allow us all to take a moment to enjoy imagining the process. Hmmm~…

Ahhhh right. Gotcha. :D

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:26 pm
by Xanatos
pandaphil wrote:
Atario wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Yep.
Not to derail again, but just remember for a second that her changing into that suit required Emi's help.

Your point is?
The point is in his pants.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:37 pm
by pandaphil
Speaking of which, what Lilly at the pool might look like.

Re: Yamaku's Swimming Pool

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:12 am
by Atario
pandaphil wrote:Speaking of which, what Lilly at the pool might look like.
Hommina hommina how wah.