Nigga I love me some tragedybrythain wrote: Mutou has a tragic past but will have a happy future; for Naomi, it's the other way round.

Nigga I love me some tragedybrythain wrote: Mutou has a tragic past but will have a happy future; for Naomi, it's the other way round.
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Heh, if you want the Mutou arc, it's [here].Munchenhausen wrote:Nigga I love me some tragedybrythain wrote: Mutou has a tragic past but will have a happy future; for Naomi, it's the other way round.is that in one of your After The Dreams?
What Naomi doesn't know is, Shizune knows shorthand.Munchenhausen wrote:- Naomi often leaves her notepads lying about. Many have taken a peak into it, hoping to find some kind of confirmation of rumours or to see what slander they'll be stirring up in this week's edition... Only to find the whole thing it written completely in shorthand.
- She knows this and occasionally writes some rather personal accounts in them, just for shits and giggles.
That solves her mystery of the sticky tables ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )emmjay wrote:What Naomi doesn't know is, Shizune knows shorthand.Munchenhausen wrote:- Naomi often leaves her notepads lying about. Many have taken a peak into it, hoping to find some kind of confirmation of rumours or to see what slander they'll be stirring up in this week's edition... Only to find the whole thing it written completely in shorthand.
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But Valjean, they explain why Shizune is able to beat Hanako (kind of). It's because Chess is such a complex game that playing it competitively is almost a different game than playing it for fun. It has been played for so long that people have found ways to shift the scale to their favor. Someone who plays for fun that relies mostly on things that he/she has discovered on his/her own (read: Hanako) is no match for someone as competitive as Shizune, who has most likely decided to read up on the optimal algorithms that guarantee victory that have been discovered over the course of almost 2000 years.Valjean Lafitte wrote:It always annoyed that Hanako and Lilly's routes build Hanako up to be this great chess master, then Shizune comes along, beats her, and basically says [No, she's really not].So my headcanon is that Shizune merely lucked out the two (or was it three?) times she beat Hanako at chess.
It's not that I don't understand how Shizune was able to beat Hanako at chess; the scene just annoys me regardless of the justification for her victory. I mean, here we have two route's, Lilly's and Hanako's, that both paint a picture of Hanako as somewhat of a chess whiz. Along with billiards, it's something that she happens to be really, really good at, and it never seemed to me that she only played it for fun.Kakureboshi wrote:But Valjean, they explain why Shizune is able to beat Hanako (kind of). It's because Chess is such a complex game that playing it competitively is almost a different game than playing it for fun. It has been played for so long that people have found ways to shift the scale to their favor. Someone who plays for fun that relies mostly on things that he/she has discovered on his/her own (read: Hanako) is no match for someone as competitive as Shizune, who has most likely decided to read up on the optimal algorithms that guarantee victory that have been discovered over the course of almost 2000 years.Valjean Lafitte wrote:It always annoyed that Hanako and Lilly's routes build Hanako up to be this great chess master, then Shizune comes along, beats her, and basically says [No, she's really not].So my headcanon is that Shizune merely lucked out the two (or was it three?) times she beat Hanako at chess.
Hanako plays for fun, and she may have far more natural talent for chess than Shizune, but the way Shizune speaks about the game makes it look like she spent quite a good amount of time reading up on these optimal strategies. Not to mention how nervous Hanako was didn't help.
Well, this is my head canon now: Shizune lost at chess to someone once and then she spent an outrageous amount of time studying the game in order to never be beaten again. Because Shizune. Hanako is actually more talented at chess than Shizune, but has never felt the need to take it that seriously.
Another possibility is that the loss was deliberate on Hanako's part and Shizune's explanation was incorrect. Hanako doesn't love winning as much as Shizune does; she'd rather not be bugged by endless requests for a rematch if she won. Conflict avoidance at its most sublime—allowing Hanako to have really won and Shizune to only think she'd won. Hanako's not bugged by that kind of situation.Valjean Lafitte wrote:But then A22 comes along and is all like "Nah, man. That ain't gonna work, cuz my girl is the best at everything". I'd bet anything that she'd have beaten Hanako at billiards too if a scene had called for them to play against each other. I'm not the biggest Shizune fan, so maybe I just took the scene too personally, but it felt like both a dig at Hanako and a childish refusal on A22's part to let another character be better than Shizune at a game.
I dunno, it also could be taken to show how isolated Hanako's little world really was.Valjean Lafitte wrote: It's not that I don't understand how Shizune was able to beat Hanako at chess; the scene just annoys me regardless of the justification for her victory. I mean, here we have two route's, Lilly's and Hanako's, that both paint a picture of Hanako as somewhat of a chess whiz. Along with billiards, it's something that she happens to be really, really good at, and it never seemed to me that she only played it for fun.
But then A22 comes along and is all like "Nah, man. That ain't gonna work, cuz my girl is the best at everything". I'd bet anything that she'd have beaten Hanako at billiards too if a scene had called for them to play against each other. I'm not the biggest Shizune fan, so maybe I just took the scene too personally, but it felt like both a dig at Hanako and a childish refusal on A22's part to let another character be better than Shizune at a game.
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And Hisao.Munchenhausen wrote:All it really shows is that she can whoop a blind girl at chess, which isn't too amazing if I phrase it like that
I like this interpretation!brythain wrote:Another possibility is that the loss was deliberate on Hanako's part and Shizune's explanation was incorrect. Hanako doesn't love winning as much as Shizune does; she'd rather not be bugged by endless requests for a rematch if she won. Conflict avoidance at its most sublime—allowing Hanako to have really won and Shizune to only think she'd won. Hanako's not bugged by that kind of situation.
Well Hisao's a prat anyway, no-one likes him. They only fucked him because his sweatervest is enchanted.Valjean Lafitte wrote:And Hisao.Munchenhausen wrote:All it really shows is that she can whoop a blind girl at chess, which isn't too amazing if I phrase it like that
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To me, it always felt like chess was something she enjoyed, but at the same time it was one of the few things she do where she was actually treated as an equal to somebody else.Along with billiards, it's something that she happens to be really, really good at, and it never seemed to me that she only played it for fun.
What do you mean by this?Oddball wrote:Although that doesn't excuse Shizune's judging her after the game.
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Who says Lilly's any good at Blindfold Chess?Liminaut wrote:There is a thing called blindfold chess. Players play without a board, visualizing boards in their heads. Players that can do this are usually extremely good. So being able to beat a blind person in chess may be quite an accomplishment.
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