Rin and autism
Re: Rin and autism
This is part of why people in the UK don't want to use DSM-V.
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)—Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/Akira • Hideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of Suzu • Sakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)
Main Index (Complete)—Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/Akira • Hideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of Suzu • Sakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)
Re: Rin and autism
I've just realised I've failed to give my opinion on the matter, just attempted to clarify what PDD-NOS is. Well, here goes.
In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.
In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.
I can't really choose a favourite. Probably Hanako. But then who's second?! Rin? Shizune? Lilly? Emi? I can't. I just can't.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
Re: Rin and autism
You never what the fuck "PDD-NOS" is. When I see an acronym like that I don't think autism. So can you please say what the hell "PDD-NOS" even means?Linkarena wrote:I've just realised I've failed to give my opinion on the matter, just attempted to clarify what PDD-NOS is. Well, here goes.
In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.
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Re: Rin and autism
PDD-NOS means "pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified". I don't see how the actual term will help you though, and I've already tried to explain what it is. So, whatever, sorry mate.Steinherz wrote:You never what the fuck "PDD-NOS" is. When I see an acronym like that I don't think autism. So can you please say what the hell "PDD-NOS" even means?
EDIT: Just realised I'd ALSO said everything in this post previously. Did you even read the earlier posts on the thread?
I can't really choose a favourite. Probably Hanako. But then who's second?! Rin? Shizune? Lilly? Emi? I can't. I just can't.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
Re: Rin and autism
I feel defining her exact problem and blaming it on a mental illness of any kind actually does a disservice to the character. At that point you're saying, "She's weird because..." rather than accepting that she is just who she is.In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.
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Re: Rin and autism
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I almost feel like that was the point of her route, really. Acceptance, both of yourself and what she is, is a theme all throughout KS, but in Rin's route especially.Most of Hisao's missteps (if I remember correctly) come from trying to put Rin into a box or label her. Most of the choices that move you closer to her GE are you accepting who you are, and who she is, even in absence of understanding the root causes. This is the point of the scene in which you speak to Mutou earlier in the game, and several scenes throughout the various routes call to this. Hisao's awkwardness with Lilly and him discussing how something looks.
Perhaps, of course, I am looking too deeply into the issue. But, that said, I agree with Oddball. There is no understanding Rin. Down that path lies madness.
I almost feel like that was the point of her route, really. Acceptance, both of yourself and what she is, is a theme all throughout KS, but in Rin's route especially.Most of Hisao's missteps (if I remember correctly) come from trying to put Rin into a box or label her. Most of the choices that move you closer to her GE are you accepting who you are, and who she is, even in absence of understanding the root causes. This is the point of the scene in which you speak to Mutou earlier in the game, and several scenes throughout the various routes call to this. Hisao's awkwardness with Lilly and him discussing how something looks.
Perhaps, of course, I am looking too deeply into the issue. But, that said, I agree with Oddball. There is no understanding Rin. Down that path lies madness.
Lilly = Rin > Hanako > Emi > Misha > Shizune
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Re: Rin and autism
Oddball wrote:I feel defining her exact problem and blaming it on a mental illness of any kind actually does a disservice to the character. At that point you're saying, "She's weird because..." rather than accepting that she is just who she is.In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.
This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labelsBroomhead wrote:I almost feel like that was the point of her route, really. [...]
Perhaps, of course, I am looking too deeply into the issue. But, that said, I agree with Oddball. There is no understanding Rin. Down that path lies madness.
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Re: Rin and autism
Which is exactly the problem that causes Hisao to be such an ass in her route.Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels
I can't really choose a favourite. Probably Hanako. But then who's second?! Rin? Shizune? Lilly? Emi? I can't. I just can't.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
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Maybe you should become a science teac- Oh. Right.Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels
Lilly = Rin > Hanako > Emi > Misha > Shizune
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Re: Rin and autism
This is wisdom.Oddball wrote:I feel defining her exact problem and blaming it on a mental illness of any kind actually does a disservice to the character. At that point you're saying, "She's weird because..." rather than accepting that she is just who she is.
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)—Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/Akira • Hideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of Suzu • Sakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)
Main Index (Complete)—Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/Akira • Hideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of Suzu • Sakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)
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Re: Rin and autism
Alas, the forklift has me now.Broomhead wrote:Maybe you should become a science teac- Oh. Right.Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels
Like stupid, silly doodles with no point? You've come to the right place, friend :^)
I also occasionally write oneshots. Why not have a skimread?
Miki fic? Miki fic!
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Re: Rin and autism
Guys, Rin's medical problem isn't autism. It's that she's missing arms.
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Re: Rin and autism
It's all right, you're still a heavy lifter.Munchenhausen wrote:Alas, the forklift has me now.Broomhead wrote:Maybe you should become a science teac- Oh. Right.Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)—Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/Akira • Hideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of Suzu • Sakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)
Main Index (Complete)—Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/Akira • Hideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of Suzu • Sakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)
Re: Rin and autism
I didnt intend for what I said to cause so much controversy. The reason I said Rin definitely has PDD-NOS is because despite the fact that she has a lot of Autistic traits, she is an individual and cant be fitted into this mold of "Autistic". If you want to know more about what else she might have, look up Caetextia. Because to me, she has a more right brained type of Caetexia.
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Re: Rin and autism
To me, she is Rin. I'm just going to stick by my argument that Rin is Rin and that labeling her completely defeats the purpose of her character and her route.Mythic wrote:Because to me, she has a more right brained type of Caetexia.
I can't really choose a favourite. Probably Hanako. But then who's second?! Rin? Shizune? Lilly? Emi? I can't. I just can't.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.
Also, little fact: I cry REALLY easily when it comes to entertainment. KS? Got me a few times. Most anime with even a slight amount of sadness? The tears will flooooow.