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Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:23 pm
by metalangel
SpunkySix wrote:And in a hypothetical about a fictional universe where unlikely things can easily occur and often do, (which the question was) probability means jack shit, which is an incredibly basic concept that I've already explained repeatedly, along with at least one other person.
So your real-world concepts can be applied to a fictional universe but mine can't?

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:32 pm
by Zarys
metalangel wrote:
SpunkySix wrote:And in a hypothetical about a fictional universe where unlikely things can easily occur and often do, (which the question was) probability means jack shit, which is an incredibly basic concept that I've already explained repeatedly, along with at least one other person.
So your real-world concepts can be applied to a fictional universe but mine can't?

Fighting for ideas that you know are false just to not admit being wrong (essentialy what your link call "True Courage"), is wrong in the real-life AND fictional universes. :mrgreen:

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:35 pm
by SpunkySix
metalangel wrote:
SpunkySix wrote:And in a hypothetical about a fictional universe where unlikely things can easily occur and often do, (which the question was) probability means jack shit, which is an incredibly basic concept that I've already explained repeatedly, along with at least one other person.
So your real-world concepts can be applied to a fictional universe but mine can't?
Not when your real-world concepts are totally irrelevant in a hypothetical situation, they can't.

It's not like I said that maybe one of the deaf kids would be juggling chainsaws, get a hair up his ass and toss one at Misha. What I said was unlikely perhaps, (although you keep ignoring the fact that your sample size is very weak) but completely realistic and possible, meaning that it very well could happen at Yamaku. That is all that was asked. Not, "What chance is there of somebody being angry at Misha?", not "Is this something that would happen in most cases?" and not "Based solely on metalangel's limited experiences, would somebody at Yamaku snap at Misha for being able-bodied?".

This was the question:
why would other students - especially the deaf ones - object to healthy people wanting to teach their language?
And it was answered. Obviously not all of the deaf kids would get mad at her, but some might for the reason I gave. In a fictional world like the one at Yamaku, that's more than enough to make it a valid answer to what was asked.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:41 pm
by metalangel
If I had just given my "limited" experiences, without saying as I did that your very vague comment lacked merit because it was so vague, would you still be calling them all worthless and irrelevant?

Just hypothetically speaking, of course.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:53 pm
by SpunkySix
metalangel wrote:If I had just given my "limited" experiences, without saying as I did that your very vague comment lacked merit because it was so vague, would you still be calling them all worthless and irrelevant?

Just hypothetically speaking, of course.
You didn't say that it lacked merit because it was vague, you said that it didn't have a point to it.
It could just be that you didn't have a decent point.
Not the same thing. One is constructive and points me in the right direction to help you understand, and the other is snarky and useless to me. From the very beginning of this you've had a fairly hostile attitude about this for whatever reason and you've been pretty vague yourself at times, and it hasn't helped matters much. If that's what you meant to say, then it would have been helpful to say it.

Given the context though, it was pretty clear what I meant anyways. "People get [annoyed] over nothing" isn't that vague of a way to explain why somebody would get irrationally angry at somebody. It means exactly what it sounds like, and it seems other people understood it enough.

And either way, your experiences wouldn't be worthless in a greater sense, (I never called them that) but they would still be totally irrelevant, yeah.
Just hypothetically speaking, of course.
Oh, zing.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:59 pm
by ogorhan
Ever heard of the saying "people will complain over everything", im sure most did. Even if everything is perfectly fine there will always be few people that will complain about everything being perfectly fine, its human nature and so its not unreasonable to think that somewhere in Yamaku someone for whatever reason will complain and ask Misha about it.

So let the matter of who is right or who has a point or not rest so that the thread doesnt get cooked :wink:

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:09 pm
by SpunkySix
ogorhan wrote:let the matter of who is right or who has a point or not rest so that the thread doesnt get cooked :wink:
Alright, fine. Can do.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:06 am
by Popcorn513
Oddball wrote:The devs have said that something like that actually was the original idea for Misha. Her parents found out she was a lesbian and sent her to Yamaku as an attempt to cure her.

Then the devs realized that it was a stupid idea and dropped it.


... or something to that effect. I might be remembering it wrong.
sex preference = physically/mentally disorder?

lol, luckily devs dropped it else i will be joining sex freedom protest, although i'm straight

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:23 pm
by CoffeeDrive
Popcorn513 wrote:
Oddball wrote:The devs have said that something like that actually was the original idea for Misha. Her parents found out she was a lesbian and sent her to Yamaku as an attempt to cure her.

Then the devs realized that it was a stupid idea and dropped it.


... or something to that effect. I might be remembering it wrong.
sex preference = physically/mentally disorder?

lol, luckily devs dropped it else i will be joining sex freedom protest, although i'm straight
To the Japanese, that would actually be an acceptable reason.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:27 pm
by ParagonTerminus
Popcorn513 wrote:
Oddball wrote:The devs have said that something like that actually was the original idea for Misha. Her parents found out she was a lesbian and sent her to Yamaku as an attempt to cure her.

Then the devs realized that it was a stupid idea and dropped it.


... or something to that effect. I might be remembering it wrong.
sex preference = physically/mentally disorder?

lol, luckily devs dropped it else i will be joining sex freedom protest, although i'm straight
Well see, in some places...

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:25 pm
by SpunkySix
ParagonTerminus wrote:
Popcorn513 wrote:
Oddball wrote:The devs have said that something like that actually was the original idea for Misha. Her parents found out she was a lesbian and sent her to Yamaku as an attempt to cure her.

Then the devs realized that it was a stupid idea and dropped it.


... or something to that effect. I might be remembering it wrong.
sex preference = physically/mentally disorder?

lol, luckily devs dropped it else i will be joining sex freedom protest, although i'm straight
Well see, in some places...
Is that real? :shock:

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:30 pm
by Broomhead
I knew they existed, but I didn't think a pharmacy would sell that sorta thing...

Curing homosexuality probably spawned around the same time Europe started cracking down on deviancy. That's just a guess though. People are sick, twisted jerks sometimes.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:31 pm
by SpunkySix
Broomhead wrote:I knew they existed, but I didn't think a pharmacy would sell that sorta thing...

Curing homosexuality probably spawned around the same time Europe started cracking down on deviancy. That's just a guess though. People are sick, twisted jerks sometimes.
That's really disgusting. I hate people so much sometimes. :|

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:03 am
by Liminaut
Broomhead wrote:I knew they existed, but I didn't think a pharmacy would sell that sorta thing...

Curing homosexuality probably spawned around the same time Europe started cracking down on deviancy. That's just a guess though. People are sick, twisted jerks sometimes.
Check out the life of Alan Turing sometime. He ran the British Ultra decryption effort, and was rather responsible for making WW2 a lot shorter. He was also gay. This was discovered, he was convicted of homosexuality, and eventually committed suicide after struggling with the court-ordered cure.

Re: What if Misha's presence at Yamaku...

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:36 am
by Atario
SpunkySix wrote:Is that real? :shock:
Let me just point out one of the many jokes on the package. Location is listed as Hershey Highway.