Not at all. You write what you want to write.KronosTrinity wrote:I read the Suzu route and absolutely fell in love with the writing and character herself and it made me want to make an Iwanako Psuedo-Route. However, I know one already exists so I was wondering if it would be in bad taste to try and make my own? If not im getting to work right away but I wanted to check and make sure nobody would bite my head off.
Oddball wrote:Not at all. You write what you want to write.KronosTrinity wrote:I read the Suzu route and absolutely fell in love with the writing and character herself and it made me want to make an Iwanako Psuedo-Route. However, I know one already exists so I was wondering if it would be in bad taste to try and make my own? If not im getting to work right away but I wanted to check and make sure nobody would bite my head off.
I will warn you though that making an entire route is a lot of work. You might want to start smaller. Do a few one chapter oneshots first to easy your way into things, perhaps.
No red, got it. If I may ask, do you think a story that doesn't resolve around Hisao would be a good idea? I have a vision for Iwanako but I don't want her to be involved with Hisao. Im considering her trying to avoid him, or the story taking from the bad end on the school roof, but im not sure if this would make for good reading or not.Oddball wrote:Some tips...
Stop typing in Red
Make you you know your character inside and out before you even start.
Have a good idea where the plot is going. It might change as you write, but you need to have a good place to start from.
Do something different. Look for characters nobody else has done, or look at them in ways nobody else does.
Well, if you want to write a story about Iwanako without Hisao you run into the problem that it's just kinda not Katawa Shoujo anymore. I mean, she's a normal nondisabled girl and she doesn't attend Yamaku so right off the bat you've lot a lot of what makes KS special.KronosTrinity wrote:No red, got it. If I may ask, do you think a story that doesn't resolve around Hisao would be a good idea? I have a vision for Iwanako but I don't want her to be involved with Hisao. Im considering her trying to avoid him, or the story taking from the bad end where Hisao falls from the roof and dies, but im not sure if this would make for good reading or not.Oddball wrote:Some tips...
Stop typing in Red
Make you you know your character inside and out before you even start.
Have a good idea where the plot is going. It might change as you write, but you need to have a good place to start from.
Do something different. Look for characters nobody else has done, or look at them in ways nobody else does.
I figure, Iwanako is a sweet girl at first. But witnessing something like Hisaos heart attack would change someone. Depression, anger issues, attempted Catharsis, things like these would be something she is ailed with and during the time with Hisao in the hospital she would slowly become volatile and spiteful. Im thinking maybe she developed Borderline Personality Disorder, and that causes problems in her current school so her parents send her to Yamaku. I also really want to give Kenji some light as well, making him one of the main parts of the story, though this is all speculation as of right now.Oddball wrote:Well, if you want to write a story about Iwanako without Hisao you run into the problem that it's just kinda not Katawa Shoujo anymore. I mean, she's a normal nondisabled girl and she doesn't attend Yamaku so right off the bat you've lot a lot of what makes KS special.KronosTrinity wrote:No red, got it. If I may ask, do you think a story that doesn't resolve around Hisao would be a good idea? I have a vision for Iwanako but I don't want her to be involved with Hisao. Im considering her trying to avoid him, or the story taking from the bad end where Hisao falls from the roof and dies, but im not sure if this would make for good reading or not.Oddball wrote:Some tips...
Stop typing in Red
Make you you know your character inside and out before you even start.
Have a good idea where the plot is going. It might change as you write, but you need to have a good place to start from.
Do something different. Look for characters nobody else has done, or look at them in ways nobody else does.
But not using Hisao at all? Sure. Fine. Hisao doesn't even interact with the majority of the people in his class, much less the school. You could even start things up before Hisao arrives at Yamaku if you like.
You do now. But will you still feel that way in two months? The benefit of starting small is that you can learn where your limits lie, how quickly you write, how you deal with criticism and how you handle the inevitable end of the butterfly stage that sets in a few weeks after you started writing. These are all good things to know.To be honest with you, I have way too much time on my hands anyways.
You are going on as if im just going to start writing and have no concept of where the story is going. I do have ideas, I was just asking wether or not Oddball thought they were good ones. I am currently also writing a book, and im very deep into it already, however I want to take a break from writing it to dive into something else that ive been wanting to do since the Suzu Route, Iwanako. I know that the next year is pretty much going to be an empty slate for me and I would like a great activity like this to work on. Ive had images of Iwanako and Kenji arguing, ive dreamt of who Iwanako would be after the heart attack, and I really want to put those dreams and these images I keep having into a story.Guest Poster wrote:You do now. But will you still feel that way in two months? The benefit of starting small is that you can learn where your limits lie, how quickly you write, how you deal with criticism and how you handle the inevitable end of the butterfly stage that sets in a few weeks after you started writing. These are all good things to know.To be honest with you, I have way too much time on my hands anyways.
I kinda feel you're going at this from the wrong angle. The reason someone writes a fanfic is because he has a story in his head that he thinks is worth telling, not because he has too much time on his hands. Someone who has no basic idea of a plot and who's merely writing to spend his surplus of free time isn't going to finish what he starts or what he writes will be bland and uninspired.
I still think you should start small just to get a feel for how you do as a writer and not merely jump on the pseudo-route bandwagon because it's hip or something. The entire basic plot should be in your head before you even write a single word. And no, we can't help you with that. If someone doesn't know what exactly to write, he shouldn't write to begin with, much less start a large-scale project.
First, Iwanako is a blank slate in terms of canon. All that's known about her is that she apparently has long dark hair, confessed to Hisao on a wintry afternoon, and summarily gave up on visiting him in the hospital after a few weeks. You can draw a few conclusions about her character from that, but not much. There's nothing wrong with it, but the conversations you imagined between her and Kenji are between him and an OC.KronosTrinity wrote:Ive had images of Iwanako and Kenji arguing, ive dreamt of who Iwanako would be after the heart attack, and I really want to put those dreams and these images I keep having into a story.
Well creating a condition for her to go isn't as hard as you may think.Helbereth wrote:First, Iwanako is a blank slate in terms of canon. All that's known about her is that she apparently has long dark hair, confessed to Hisao on a wintry afternoon, and summarily gave up on visiting him in the hospital after a few weeks. You can draw a few conclusions about her character from that, but not much. There's nothing wrong with it, but the conversations you imagined between her and Kenji are between him and an OC.KronosTrinity wrote:Ive had images of Iwanako and Kenji arguing, ive dreamt of who Iwanako would be after the heart attack, and I really want to put those dreams and these images I keep having into a story.
The major issue with generating a fiction involving Iwanako with anyone at Yamaku is that there isn't any reason for her to end up there in the first place. Leaty created an AU scenario where she traded afflictions with Hisao, had his heart attack, learned she had his arrythmia, and was sent to Yamaku in his place. Short of that, it's nearly impossible to concoct a plausible scenario that places her at a school half way across the country.
If the characters were of university age, it's possible she could follow him to the new school in the hopes of rekindling the relationship his arrhythmia denied them. That, however, isn't going to work for high school kids whose decisions are still being made for them by their parents and or guardians. There's also the angle of inventing a condition that would permit her to follow Hisao to Yamaku, or simply go there by herself - to hell with Hisao - but I'd have a hard time taking that seriously.
Not to sound discouraging, but you're facing a whole long series of daunting tasks to pull off a believable fiction that somehow results in Iwanako ever meeting Kenji.
Leaty, the author of the work in progress you mention, has posted in your thread already. If you worry about that, you'd do well to read her comment.KronosTrinity wrote:I was wondering if it would be in bad taste to try and make my own?
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, but I'll say that while on the one hand writing from experience is good, on the other author self-insertion is definitely a bad idea.KronosTrinity wrote:I had something similar to Iwanako happen in my life
Silentcook wrote:Leaty, the author of the work in progress you mention, has posted in your thread already. If you worry about that, you'd do well to read her comment.KronosTrinity wrote:I was wondering if it would be in bad taste to try and make my own?
General tips about writing fan fiction can be found in a sticky within this forum. While you're there, take a look at the "no requesting" sticky - it applies to authors too.
Yamaku canonically accepts even non-disabled people, but is defined as not being able to accept students whose disabilities are primarily mental.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, but I'll say that while on the one hand writing from experience is good, on the other author self-insertion is definitely a bad idea.KronosTrinity wrote:I had something similar to Iwanako happen in my life
Other than that, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Rather than spoiling the plot of your hypothetical piece of writing, it would be better for you to work on it.