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If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:19 pm
by Draganada
Just came into my head originally as an idea for a fic, but I'm not particularly compelled to work on a KS one ATM. As such, I figured I'd settle for just opening a discussion here. (Apologies if this is already a thread somewhere.)

Without even worrying about the kind of relationship the two would have, I ran into a brick wall when I realised that perhaps the only reason Lilly had gotten close to Hanako was because they were next door to each other in the dormitories. I suppose a writer would have to come up with some random encounters and really push it to make it work. :/ Can anyone offer some potential scenario for an introduction between the pair?

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:32 pm
by bhtooefr
FluffandCrunch started exploring that:

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:44 pm
by LorSquirrel
I've actually thought about this before, mostly because I was contemplating writing an Alternate Universe fic at the time, and I honestly couldn't think of many ways it would work. I came up with a few, but I feel they would take no small amount of effort to work, and a good writer to make them work believably.

The one that seemed to work the "best" was to have them meet in the library, and just to keep having them bump into each other there, but I"m not entirely sure that would work because I'm not even sure if Hanako frequented the library before she meet Lilly, and I doubt that she would really be willing to talk to Male Lilly because when she meets Hisao in act one she's barely willing to say more than a couple words, so I would imagine that not having anyone who would sort of push her to open up to Male Lilly (Name suggestions for Male Lilly would probably be Bradford, William, or Reave. Just putting that out there. And yes, Reave is a real name.)

I don't know if any of that is what you were looking for. It's just how I've thought of the situation.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:28 pm
by Draganada
Actually, that gave me an idea. Say, they both frequent the library; and Hanako gets used to (ignoring) his presence. We could force some interaction via an accident: ie. Male Lilly trips and has trouble getting up. Supposing he doesn't have to be a perfect mirror, he could be rather clumsy; perhaps not even blind from birth? That's getting a bit ahead of ourselves, though.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:41 pm
by Steinherz
Can you imagine a guy looking like this named Bradford, William, or Reave? :lol:
Image

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:43 pm
by Draganada
bhtooefr wrote:FluffandCrunch started exploring that:
Wow, thanks for linking this! ^^

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:43 pm
by Draganada
Steinherz wrote:Can you imagine a guy looking like this named Bradford, William, or Reave? :lol:
Image
That's just too perfect, seriously.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:45 pm
by Steinherz
Draganada wrote:
Steinherz wrote:Can you imagine a guy looking like this named Bradford, William, or Reave? :lol:
http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/image/2330.jpg
That's just too perfect, seriously.
Silentcook is going to have a conniption with quoting of images that were just posted :lol:

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:56 pm
by LorSquirrel
Draganada wrote:Actually, that gave me an idea. Say, they both frequent the library; and Hanako gets used to (ignoring) his presence. We could force some interaction via an accident: ie. Male Lilly trips and has trouble getting up. Supposing he doesn't have to be a perfect mirror, he could be rather clumsy; perhaps not even blind from birth? That's getting a bit ahead of ourselves, though.
It could work depending on if its just them in a area of the library at the time. Not sure how it would lead to anything more then a few murmurs from Hanako, but if we had it happen multiple time, or just have them constantly bump into each other on a bi-daily basis it could work.

I have to say. I rather like the thought of having him be clumsy, but then we might get dragged into the whole, "Can we really call it another version of this person if they don't have the same personalities?" argument that I hate because it makes no sense.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:01 pm
by bhtooefr
Mind you, Lilly being a boy would likely cause some significant changes in upbringing, and therefore personality.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:03 pm
by LorSquirrel
bhtooefr wrote:Mind you, Lilly being a boy would likely cause some significant changes in upbringing, and therefore personality.
Yeah, I know. That's why I hate the argument.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:28 pm
by Steinherz
LorSquirrel wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Mind you, Lilly being a boy would likely cause some significant changes in upbringing, and therefore personality.
Yeah, I know. That's why I hate the argument.
If going by the way Lilly's family is depicted in the actual VN, a male Lilly would likely be more coddled, and very likely hate it. Simply because Japanese culture puts a lot of emphasis on the first-born male child, but him being blind since birth would be a bit of some shame for them. So having him sent off somewhere where his disability wouldn't bring shame upon their family is a good thing.

Ergo I think if Lilly were a guy he'd likely be much more cynical and abrasive. Definitely a Deadpan Snarker.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:29 pm
by bhtooefr
So, basically, Akira turned up to 11?

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:38 pm
by LorSquirrel
Or Kyo from Haruhi Suzumiya turned down to twelve.

Re: If Lilly Had Been a Boy

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:31 pm
by griffon8
LorSquirrel wrote:(Name suggestions for Male Lilly would probably be Bradford, William, or Reave. Just putting that out there. And yes, Reave is a real name.)
No, no. A male Lilly would be half-Russian and named Yuri. :P