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It's never revealed how Emi's first relationship, which she tells Hisao about towards the finale of her route, came to an end... but how do you think things played out?

As I remember it, she clearly stated that he gave up on the relationship because Emi wouldn't let him get close to her. Same thing as with Hisao except Hisao didn't give up.

A Forum Member wrote:As I remember it, she clearly stated that he gave up on the relationship because Emi wouldn't let him get close to her. Same thing as with Hisao except Hisao didn't give up.

Pretty much how I saw it. Hisao was just more stubborn.

I think that Emi was such an maniacal, and hateful bitch, that her previous boyfriend felt the only way to get out of the relationship was to end his own life via noose. It's a completely rational way to break off ties

KeiichiO wrote:I think that Emi was such an maniacal, and hateful bitch, that her previous boyfriend felt the only way to get out of the relationship was to end his own life via noose. It's a completely rational way to break off ties

...Tongue... Firmly in cheek, I hope?

I think it's no one's business but her own. People make far too big a deal of this.

A Forum Member wrote:As I remember it, she clearly stated that he gave up on the relationship because Emi wouldn't let him get close to her. Same thing as with Hisao except Hisao didn't give up.

Aye, this.

Three of the choices implies Emi is like, stated earlier:

KeiichiO wrote:maniacal, and hateful bitch

Because that is totally how her character is. Also needless to say again, the game did state what happened.

I'll be surprise if this thread drags on for long.

muliebrity wrote:

KeiichiO wrote:I think that Emi was such an maniacal, and hateful bitch, that her previous boyfriend felt the only way to get out of the relationship was to end his own life via noose. It's a completely rational way to break off ties

...Tongue... Firmly in cheek, I hope?

I think it's no one's business but her own. People make far too big a deal of this.

It was just one of my dark jokes is all. No need to look into it, really.

Anyway, I agree with you wholeheartedly. What's in the past, is in the past. No need to bring it up when it's really not necessary. Emi is with Hisao, (if that's your preferred ending) and that's all that matters. I'm not saying there's no need for speculation, but I honestly don't care how her previous relationship went or how it ended. The thought never crossed my thoughts during my playthrough of Emi's route.

So, to take this conversation a step further, does anyone think it was needlessly cruel to break up with someone that had undergone so much trauma, and that Emi's boyfriend should have shown more tolerance to her situation - no matter how many years it took, or even if his efforts never reaped fruit at all?

No. It was never the guy's duty to fix Emi's trauma for her or put up with the stonewalling for an extended amount of time. It was a highschool relationship, not a marriage. The guy started it with certain expectations and broke it off when it became clear that Emi wasn't able to meet those expectations. He was her highschool boyfriend, not her therapist.

BTW, I'm kinda wondering if the nurse never tried referring Emi to Yamaku's therapists. As far as I know those therapists are there exactly because part of the student body has a condition as a result of some nasty accident and PTSD symptoms are probably higher than average in Yamaku's student base. Maybe he knew Emi wasn't going to attend therapy anyway or maybe his personal bond with Emi got in the way.

Katie wrote:So, to take this conversation a step further, does anyone think it was needlessly cruel to break up with someone that had undergone so much trauma, and that Emi's boyfriend should have shown more tolerance to her situation - no matter how many years it took, or even if his efforts never reaped fruit at all?

Emi probably didn't tell him anything and he had no idea about her problems. And like the others have said, no one can really blame him for breaking up with her.

Katie wrote:So, to take this conversation a step further, does anyone think it was needlessly cruel to break up with someone that had undergone so much trauma, and that Emi's boyfriend should have shown more tolerance to her situation - no matter how many years it took, or even if his efforts never reaped fruit at all?

The ex boyfriend didn't know anything about Emi's private life, so he obviously wouldn't know what happened. I think the break up didn't really affect Emi too, since she didn't open up to her ex that much, so no emotional bond. Until someone as stubborn as Hisao came along, I think no one would try hard enough to take their relationship with Emi to another step. Its just more pressure on top of their own life. I think at that point Hisao didn't care about his own problems anyway.

So no, nothing cruel about that.

pandaphil wrote:

A Forum Member wrote:As I remember it, she clearly stated that he gave up on the relationship because Emi wouldn't let him get close to her. Same thing as with Hisao except Hisao didn't give up.

Pretty much how I saw it. Hisao was just more stubborn.

I would say it's not just that Hisao didn't give up or was more stubborn than the other guy, Hisao found the right way to get close to her without being a knight in shining armor that she hates so much (In the good ending I haven't gotten any of the bad ones so idk how different they are)

Katie wrote:So, to take this conversation a step further, does anyone think it was needlessly cruel to break up with someone that had undergone so much trauma, and that Emi's boyfriend should have shown more tolerance to her situation - no matter how many years it took, or even if his efforts never reaped fruit at all?

I don't think it's a matter of her boyfriend showing tolerance to her situation, they just had different things they wanted from a relationship. Emi only wanted someone fun to hang around and do things with. While a relationship to her boyfriend (and Hisao, and myself tbh) was something more than that he wanted someone he could get close too (possibly wanting to help her or save her which would be a reason for Emi to be so against the idea with Hisao, although she would probably feel the same way wether or not her previous boyfriend was like that), not just another friend that he happens to hold hands with

Katie wrote:So, to take this conversation a step further, does anyone think it was needlessly cruel to break up with someone that had undergone so much trauma, and that Emi's boyfriend should have shown more tolerance to her situation - no matter how many years it took, or even if his efforts never reaped fruit at all?

Absolutely not. If anything was cruel, it was her starting a relationship with no intent to ever allow it to grow into anything worthwhile.

I still think that it is a freaking miracle that Hisao had the patience and stubbornness to get through to her.