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simple question.

what is the exact definition of a loli? Many VNs have a loli character.

How do you feel about Emi? She certainly is small and flat like a loli. But is that enough? What is your feeling on this?

She's older than Hisao. And sexually experienced.

I think what throws people off is her small height, and generally childish demeanour in many scenes.

Lolis are looks younger than they really are and they are cute. Emi looks like a high school student = not a loli. She's not cute either, imo.

Here's an example of what a loli is:


(From C3 and Seitokai no Ichizon)

Emi isn't a loli. She's smaller, and she's sometimes really childish, but if you play the route, she's actually older than Hisao, and is, to my knowledge, the only character to already be sexually experienced.

Every character is 18 by the time they're depicted in the game's sexual scenes, so there's not technically any loli at all.

ubergeneral wrote:But is that enough?

My opinion: No.

The fact: No.

By way of her age and experience, Emi is the Older Woman archetype. But by looks and attitude, she's the Lolicon archetype. Let that sink in for a moment: 4LS managed to make a character that is both the Lolicon and the Older Woman at the same time.

Nekken wrote:By way of her age and experience, Emi is the Older Woman archetype. But by looks and attitude, she's the Lolicon archetype. Let that sink in for a moment: 4LS managed to make a character that is both the Lolicon and the Older Woman at the same time.

So doesn't that... cancel out?

Nekken wrote:But by looks...she's the Lolicon archetype.

Wouldn't she actually have to look like a loli for that to be true?

a loli would be someone who is usually very young and more childlike. i would say anyone past middle school wouldn't count as loli.

"all characters in this visual novel are 18 and over."

If the character doesn't look like they're 8 or younger, they're not a loli.

Emi might be a bit short and a bit flat, but she still looks like she's at least in her mid to late teens, so she misses out on being every pedophiles' favorite character type.

Actually she's been redesigned twice and the second version, 18 or not, is straight up loli. I think that's what brought about the last makeover.

Is this a serious thread?

In any case, she's pretty obviously not loli, although i think i can see how her body and some of her mannerisms might be reminiscent of such.

I think the twin tails give people the wrong idea

FoxtrotZero wrote:

Nekken wrote:By way of her age and experience, Emi is the Older Woman archetype. But by looks and attitude, she's the Lolicon archetype. Let that sink in for a moment: 4LS managed to make a character that is both the Lolicon and the Older Woman at the same time.

So doesn't that... cancel out?

It's a trap.