Re: For Want of a Nail - Misha Route (New Chapter 5/26)
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:14 pm
so... how often is this being updated?
(Where's the Walkthrough?)
https://ks.fhs.sh/
Yes, but what? She disappeared while he changed out of the sweater-vest, and we're never told what's actually in the box.Kurara wrote:Uh, I was under the impression that the box contains the clothing item that she bought for him.
"Aoi’s picked out an orange and black sweater vest, which she seems to be forcing into my hands."Helbereth wrote:Yes, but what? She disappeared while he changed out of the sweater-vest, and we're never told what's actually in the box.Kurara wrote:Uh, I was under the impression that the box contains the clothing item that she bought for him.
He has the vest, she shoves him in the room... he comes out, she's gone... he finds her, she has the box--wtf is in the fucking box? Assumptions are fine, but we don't actually have any idea.Before I can react, she grabs me by the shoulders, spins me around, and pushes me back into the smaller room, closing the door behind me.
She’s nowhere to be seen when I come back out, having changed back into my original clothes. I imagine the others might be finished by now, so I try to find the door we first came in.
The store turns out to be a rather intimidating maze, in spite of the signs posted everywhere, but I eventually find Aoi waiting by the exit doors with a box in her hands. Catching sight of me, she holds out the box for me to accept.
What's in the box? Same thing as what is in Kenji's box. Other girl's routesHelbereth wrote:He has the vest, she shoves him in the room... he comes out, she's gone... he finds her, she has the box--wtf is in the fucking box? Assumptions are fine, but we don't actually have any idea.Before I can react, she grabs me by the shoulders, spins me around, and pushes me back into the smaller room, closing the door behind me.
She’s nowhere to be seen when I come back out, having changed back into my original clothes. I imagine the others might be finished by now, so I try to find the door we first came in.
The store turns out to be a rather intimidating maze, in spite of the signs posted everywhere, but I eventually find Aoi waiting by the exit doors with a box in her hands. Catching sight of me, she holds out the box for me to accept.
Well, this is one of the conflicts that arise, when a third person - in this case Hisao - enters the dependency bubble.Misha and Shizune, well... they have each other, and not much else. Lilly goes as far as to call it a "dependency bubble", and while that may not be the most level-headed remark, it's not entirely inaccurate either. With that in mind, the fact that during the whole act Shizune and you, the author both tried your hardest to keep the council president "off-screen" without much of an explanation is quite stunning.
At first it was only somewhat puzzling. During the first part of the act, when Hisao did not understand sign language yet, Shizune did show up from time to time, but it felt almost like she wasn't really there, but instead left a Shizune-shaped cardboard replica to fill in for her. She didn't do anything. She didn't say anything. (Or maybe she did, but for some strange reason Misha didn't translate.) Her presence was nearly unnoticeable, and mute or not, Shizune being unnoticeable feels like an oxymoron.
Well, in her own route, she had no need to look for new members until six months later, since she had Misha and Hisao. Here she was forced to make an effort to recruit new members, and I have no problem believing that she's able to do so.And then, as if you also noticed that this could get problematic, you throw in perhaps the most inconceivable twist in the entire act: Shizune gets some permanent helpers from the lower classes. By herself. Without a interpreter. Again, we're talking about the same girl here who drove everyone out of the council once. Six months later, in her own route, I can maybe see that happen, although it'd still be a shock.
This prolem does not even arise because - as I mentioned earlier - the narrator is bound to focus on Misha more than on Shizune, no matter how dominant her personality. Also, I think that Misha's personality can very well compare to Shizune'sThe second possible reason why Shizune got the short end of the stick here is that her very dominant personality can easily turn the plot upside down. Like when you want to write a story about a superhero's sidekick: the presence of the superhero in the story can quickly lead to him hijacking the plot,...
The preferences of the narrator will only get you so far. Compare this route to Hanako's or Lilly's route, for instance: you don't see either of them "disappear" from the story to such an extent, especially not at the very beginning, even if Hisao is pursuing the other girl this time.Mirage_GSM wrote:First of all, the narrator is Hisao, and if he is dating Misha, the narration will naturally focus on her with Shizune relgated a bit to the background.
I suppose everyone writing a Misha route has to face this same issue. This is also why I "cheated" and used the fact that the Shizune route established the characters well enough already to make sure that Shizune not being there won't pose that much of a problem. I admittedly went around the problem instead of finding a solution - because it's definitely also true that no one wants to tell the Shizune route all over again with just a few cosmetic changes.I faced the same problem in the Misha Route I wrote, though I resolved it a bit differently than the Prof. Part of Prof's approach was that Shizune actively tried to get into the background to give Hisao and Misha more space.
Hold on, that's not entirely true. According to Misha, she and Shizune had been trying to recruit members all the time in the past, only to end up with precious few volunteers who, to make things worse, all gave up rather quickly and left. If that's how well they fared together, I can't really see Shizune faring that much better by herself, and that's quite the understatement.Well, in her own route, she had no need to look for new members until six months later, since she had Misha and Hisao. Here she was forced to make an effort to recruit new members, and I have no problem believing that she's able to do so.
Of course, in a whole lot of aspects Misha is probably even ahead of Shizune. But in terms of dominance? Misha might be many things, but I don't believe she's the leader type.Also, I think that Misha's personality can very well compare to Shizune's
Aoi and Keiko aren't Original Characters.AntonSlavik020 wrote:Honestly Aoi annoys me. I'm not a fan of original characters to begin with, but her personality just rubs me the wrong way about every way possible. I especially hated her when she refused to speak to Hisao at the store unless she had too. Saying that annoyed me is a massive understatement. There is literally nothing about her I like. Too be honest I don't really like Keiko very much either. From her driving to her general serious personality I don't like her either.
Oh OK. Doesn't change the fact I don't like them.Steinherz wrote:Aoi and Keiko aren't Original Characters.AntonSlavik020 wrote:Honestly Aoi annoys me. I'm not a fan of original characters to begin with, but her personality just rubs me the wrong way about every way possible. I especially hated her when she refused to speak to Hisao at the store unless she had too. Saying that annoyed me is a massive understatement. There is literally nothing about her I like. Too be honest I don't really like Keiko very much either. From her driving to her general serious personality I don't like her either.
If you play Shizune's route they appear at the end, as the next Student Council.