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SpunkySix wrote:I must say, I wish there was a way to say no to a route without being a jerk or being lame. Like... I'm super happy I ended up with Emi, so it worked out, but you should be able to choose another route without having to give up on your health or be a sarcastic dick to the nurse.

The nurse bit I don't have an issue with, but to get onto Shizune's route you have to essentially insult Lilly right in front of her and that sucks... a lot. I've only done it twice, and it sucked HARD both times.

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:

SpunkySix wrote:I must say, I wish there was a way to say no to a route without being a jerk or being lame. Like... I'm super happy I ended up with Emi, so it worked out, but you should be able to choose another route without having to give up on your health or be a sarcastic dick to the nurse.

The nurse bit I don't have an issue with, but to get onto Shizune's route you have to essentially insult Lilly right in front of her and that sucks... a lot. I've only done it twice, and it sucked HARD both times.

Yeah... even if you like Shizune, she is being a jerk to Lilly then and I find it hard to justify taking her side.

SpunkySix wrote:

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:

SpunkySix wrote:I must say, I wish there was a way to say no to a route without being a jerk or being lame. Like... I'm super happy I ended up with Emi, so it worked out, but you should be able to choose another route without having to give up on your health or be a sarcastic dick to the nurse.

The nurse bit I don't have an issue with, but to get onto Shizune's route you have to essentially insult Lilly right in front of her and that sucks... a lot. I've only done it twice, and it sucked HARD both times.

Yeah... even if you like Shizune, she is being a jerk to Lilly then and I find it hard to justify taking her side.

That's part of the reason I did Shizune's route so late, actually. :p

The order in which I did the girls (and extra) was Hanako/Kenji/Lilly/Emi/Shizune/Rin, after which I played all of the bad endings in reverse order. I used Feuver's flowchart the whole time, because that's how I roll.

I'd be hard pressed to say why I did Hanako's route first, come to think of it. It just felt like the natural decision somehow.

d2r wrote:
That's part of the reason I did Shizune's route so late, actually. :p

The order in which I did the girls (and extra) was Hanako/Kenji/Lilly/Emi/Shizune/Rin, after which I played all of the bad endings in reverse order. I used Feuver's flowchart the whole time, because that's how I roll.

I'd be hard pressed to say why I did Hanako's route first, come to think of it. It just felt like the natural decision somehow.

Hah, that's the only reason I did Shizune's so late, I'd played through all again bar Rin's before thinking 'I should probably just do it.' Still didn't like siding with them, but I liked the route (Even with Jigoro's arseholery)

I used the flowchart to get onto Rin's route as I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do it, but that was the only time.

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:Hah, that's the only reason I did Shizune's so late, I'd played through all again bar Rin's before thinking 'I should probably just do it.' Still didn't like siding with them, but I liked the route (Even with Jigoro's arseholery)

I used the flowchart to get onto Rin's route as I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do it, but that was the only time.

I don't understand why Jigoro puts so many people off the route. He's SUPPOSED to be an intolerable asshole; same as Nomiya is SUPPOSED to be a pretentious creep.

As for the flowchart, I used it the entire time because I viewed KS less as a game to be beaten (which, fundamentally, it isn't) than a series of stories to be experienced. I was interested in seeing as many stories as possible rather than guessing at options, so I figured I'd just use the guide throughout.

d2r wrote:
I don't understand why Jigoro puts so many people off the route. He's SUPPOSED to be an intolerable asshole; same as Nomiya is SUPPOSED to be a pretentious creep.

As for the flowchart, I used it the entire time because I viewed KS less as a game to be beaten (which, fundamentally, it isn't) than a series of stories to be experienced. I was interested in seeing as many stories as possible rather than guessing at options, so I figured I'd just use the guide throughout.

Haha, he didn't put me off in the slightest, otherwise I wouldn't play it at all! (And if Nomiya put me off, then I'd miss out on Rin's route, and that would NEVER do)

That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it actually. I still haven't played it 100%, I still haven't gone through Rin's, Emi's and Hanako's bad endings, but I suppose looking at it the way that you do maybe makes it easier to do that?

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it actually. I still haven't played it 100%, I still haven't gone through Rin's, Emi's and Hanako's bad endings, but I suppose looking at it the way that you do maybe makes it easier to do that?

Well, some of the bad endings can still be pretty harrowing. :p

But yes, using the chart does make it easier insofar as you don't have to guess at what does what. I preferred that.

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:I still haven't gone through Rin's, Emi's and Hanako's bad endings

If you've been through Rin's route, you've seen her bad ending.

Potato wrote:
If you've been through Rin's route, you've seen her bad ending.

RIN'S ENDING WAS GOOD, SHUSH

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:

Potato wrote:
If you've been through Rin's route, you've seen her bad ending.

RIN'S ENDING WAS GOOD, SHUSH

Not the bad one. Hence why it's the bad ending...

Potato wrote:

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:

Potato wrote:
If you've been through Rin's route, you've seen her bad ending.

RIN'S ENDING WAS GOOD, SHUSH

Not the bad one. Hence why it's the bad ending...

I'll reword it then I have been through Rin's GOOD route, but not the bad route. Need to wait until I'm feeling a bit masochistic I feel.

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:I'll reword it then I have been through Rin's GOOD route, but not the bad route. Need to wait until I'm feeling a bit masochistic I feel.

Oh, but you have. Rin's route, much like Lilly's, just stops earlier as the bad end. Now, the so-called neutral end will kill you...

Potato wrote:

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:I'll reword it then I have been through Rin's GOOD route, but not the bad route. Need to wait until I'm feeling a bit masochistic I feel.

Oh, but you have. Rin's route, much like Lilly's, just stops earlier as the bad end. Now, the so-called neutral end will kill you...

So, her bad end isn't as bad as the neutral end, essentially making the neutral end the REAL bad end? How very Rin-ish...

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:

Potato wrote:

AaronIsCrunchy wrote:I'll reword it then I have been through Rin's GOOD route, but not the bad route. Need to wait until I'm feeling a bit masochistic I feel.

Oh, but you have. Rin's route, much like Lilly's, just stops earlier as the bad end. Now, the so-called neutral end will kill you...

So, her bad end isn't as bad as the neutral end, essentially making the neutral end the REAL bad end? How very Rin-ish...

Well, that depends. Her neutral end has a kind-of-maybe silver lining, same as Hanako's but it can still hurt harder. I found it more frustrating than anything...Wanted to grab the little oddball and shake her around.

First one that I ended up with after going through act 1 was Emi, simply because it's a single choice that locks you into it. But I decided to run through act 1 until I had Act 2 ready for all characters, and I decided to go for Lilly's first. She's still my favorite, with Emi as a close second, however.