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Simple question ... with the Hanako / Hisao sex scene ( i don't think at this point that is a spoiler ) ... is this hentai/porn ( you do see everything )

We do get defensive on here when others call it cripple porn ... but isn't it with that scene Hisao is penatrating (sp) Hanako and they don't censor any of it like in all the other sex scenes

Your opinions please ?? If not porn/hentai what would you call it

I´d call that a sex scene.

It's actually a grim parody.

That scene embodies Hisao as "the guy who only downloads KS because it's cripple porn", because in that scene, he was only interested in getting his dick wet.

And because of this, there's a distinct lack of censorship in said scene, because that fact that Hanako had a working snatch is the only thing Hisao was concerned about.

It depends on your definition of porn. If porn to you means something with at least one explicit sex scene, then KS is porn. If porn means something that has no other real merit than simple fap material then KS isn't porn. The semantics of the word have been argued time and again and any new ones are pretty useless at this point.

Wait, we get defensive about calling KS cripple porn? I joke about it all the time.

I wouldn't classify it as "porn"... sure it has (an) explicit sex scene(s), but that doesn't necessarily make it that.

Naa, not porn. There's an extensive lack of bad acting, and an actual story. Porn is just, porn. I'd say they're more sex/love making scenes than anything else.

It is a game/VN with explicit sexual content, but not porn.
Porn is when the sexual content is the main thing.

Enemy | wrote:It is a game/VN with explicit sexual content, but not porn.
Porn is when the sexual content is the main thing.

Correct.

Plus, Hanako's scene was all kinds of morally ambiguous at best, and the fact that it was the only one with explicit penetration (and the only route where Hisao just happened to be randomly packing a rubber, if I recall correctly) made it all the more uncomfortable, if anything. Which was the intent, I'm thinking. Not to titillate, but as a really shady, intentional subversion.

HEY ADORABLE LITTLE BURNED GIRL I'MMA BE OVERLY SENSITIVE TO YOUR FEELINGS AND WAIT THAT GOT ME A BAD ENDING LET'S TRY AGAIN AND HELL YES WE'RE DOING IT AND OH GOD WHY DOES THIS FEEL LIKE THE WORST FUCKING THING OH CHRIST I THINK I JUST RAPED YOU I'M A MONSTER

Total Destruction wrote:

Enemy | wrote:It is a game/VN with explicit sexual content, but not porn.
Porn is when the sexual content is the main thing.

Correct.

Plus, Hanako's scene was all kinds of morally ambiguous at best, and the fact that it was the only one with explicit penetration (and the only route where Hisao just happened to be randomly packing a rubber, if I recall correctly) made it all the more uncomfortable, if anything. Which was the intent, I'm thinking. Not to titillate, but as a really shady, intentional subversion.

HEY ADORABLE LITTLE BURNED GIRL I'MMA BE OVERLY SENSITIVE TO YOUR FEELINGS AND WAIT THAT GOT ME A BAD ENDING LET'S TRY AGAIN AND HELL YES WE'RE DOING IT AND OH GOD WHY DOES THIS FEEL LIKE THE WORST FUCKING THING OH CHRIST I THINK I JUST RAPED YOU I'M A MONSTER

There is some weird crap in hentai that sounds like that ... so im told lol

One man's porn is another man's art.

My personal definition is whether the sexuality is gratuitous or not.

I don't think Michelangelo's David is porn, but there are some who do. When it comes to porn, YMMV.

I don't see KS as porn. With the Hanako route, it was a key point of the plot. Without it, the arc would have almost none of the impact that it has now.

Naw. When it comes to hentai, sexuality has to be the main focus.

Take the manga Futari Ecchi. Its about a man recently married to someone due to an arranged marraige. Each chapter ends with a sex scene, one way or the other. There are crazy amounts of sexual things, but its not porn. Why? Bevause theyre played for laughs and the main focus is about a newlywed couple trying out and getting used to various things about sex. Its actually very educational and impossible (well at least for me) to fap to.

If the main focus isnt on turning you on, its not porn

No, no it isn't. It's a romance. Porn is instant gratification.

There is far too much emotional involvement for KS to be porn. It has a detailed story and it offers much more plot than sex. Also, the sex is love-making, not fucking as it would be in porn and hentai.

dictionary.com wrote:pornography
por·nog·ra·phy   [pawr-nog-ruh-fee]
noun
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit.

World English Dictionary
pornography (pɔːˈnɒɡrəfɪ)
— n
1. writings, pictures, films, etc, designed to stimulate sexual excitement
2. the production of such material

Katawa Shoujo is about as pornographic as a romance novel with some explicit scenes. Sure, it has the capability to turn you on, but it's not the primary objective.

(in this example, Katawa Shoujo would have the capability of turning on any of us reasonable internet superheroes, whilst a smutty romance novel would have the capability of turning on a 50-year-old woman)

Gandara wrote:

dictionary.com wrote:pornography
por·nog·ra·phy   [pawr-nog-ruh-fee]
noun
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit.

World English Dictionary
pornography (pɔːˈnɒɡrəfɪ)
— n
1. writings, pictures, films, etc, designed to stimulate sexual excitement
2. the production of such material

Katawa Shoujo is about as pornographic as a romance novel with some explicit scenes. Sure, it has the capability to turn you on, but it's not the primary objective.

(in this example, Katawa Shoujo would have the capability of turning on any of us reasonable internet superheroes, whilst a smutty romance novel would have the capability of turning on a 50-year-old woman)

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