Alright, Yamaku is a interesting school, and idea.... but here are some questions for the KS community.
Question 1: How do you think a school like Yamaku would work? (Other than what we've been shown.) Would you change some things about the school?
Question 2: Do you think Yamaku is a good idea? Do you think its needed? (There are schools that are similar. but are not like Yamaku)
Question 3: How many people know physically disabled people, family or friends (might be personal so no need to elaborate), Do you think they would benefit from a school like Yamaku if given the chance?
Question 4: Do you think its wrong that they do not have(to my knowledge) mentally disabled students. Or considering the schools situation and the way it works this is appropriate?
Question 5: Who do you think would fund a school like Yamaku?
Question 6: Should the school also allow non-disabled students to get their education there?
answer the best you can, if you don't have a answer just leave it blank, its not a test lol
Questions about Yamaku
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BTW, im not only looking for professional opinions XD, share ur thoughts
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Re: Questions about Yamaku
IT Simply would not work. See question 2 for details.Maakasu_Taihaku wrote:Alright, Yamaku is a interesting school, and idea.... but here are some questions for the KS community.
Question 1: How do you think a school like Yamaku would work? (Other than what we've been shown.) Would you change some things about the school?
Usually this soecal schools for those with special needs are very specific, like a Schools for blind students, a deaf/mute student like shizune on a class where everybody else can hear and simply would not work.Question 2: Do you think Yamaku is a good idea? Do you think its needed? (There are schools that are similar. but are not like Yamaku)
And there's the students who have physical problems, like Emi and Hisao, they can attend to Hospital Schools while they are on the hospital under observation, they can pretty much function normally, without a specialized institution.
Dont know any.Question 3: How many people know physically disabled people, family or friends (might be personal so no need to elaborate), Do you think they would benefit from a school like Yamaku if given the chance?
I think the no mentally disabled students rule was made to avoid further problems the "Cripple porn game" would become the "Retarded cripple porn game". There are some guys talking about a VN about mental disabilities, they are brave, brave souls.Question 4: Do you think its wrong that they do not have(to my knowledge) mentally disabled students. Or considering the schools situation and the way it works this is appropriate?
Is it Tax deductible?Question 5: Who do you think would fund a school like Yamaku?
Probably, Misha says it is very pricey, and everybody loves money, so...Question 6: Should the school also allow non-disabled students to get their education there?
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Re: Questions about Yamaku
Question 1: How do you think a school like Yamaku would work? (Other than what we've been shown.) Would you change some things about the school?
it will most likely work as it is shown, just with better accessibility, not up on a mountain that is a pain to climb up to with doors and walkways more wheelchair accessible. With ramps by the stairs, handrails lining the school. There will need to be a method for travel for the blind and motorly disabled outside instead of the random trails. There will at the very least have those yellow tiles for coordination. There will also need to be some kind of pet rule, for seeing eye dogs and the like. Student Council will have to be better reinforced and dignified instead of two members as they are the "face" of the school. There will be a lot more teachers, possibly having two teachers per class, one as the expert the other as the assistant for those who need it. The visibly impaired will have their own individual class, and the deaf will have one individual class. Many similar exceptionalities will be grouped together in classes so they can be tended and sympathize with each other.
Question 2: Do you think Yamaku is a good idea? Do you think its needed? (There are schools that are similar. but are not like Yamaku)
There is a whole massive debate on this. A whole equality vs equity controversy, who will pay, how much will it cost, is it a public school, if it is private who gets to go... You can talk about it for years and I doubt anyone will know the answer.
Question 3: How many people know physically disabled people, family or friends (might be personal so no need to elaborate), Do you think they would benefit from a school like Yamaku if given the chance?
I work with them. Some do benefit, some do not. Totally depends on the person and their attitude. If they need constant supervision then hospital schools. If they need to watch their medicine, any school with a pharmacy nearby. If they physical accessibility (wheel chairs for example) they need to go to a school that has wheel chair accessibility. If it does not effect their work ethics it is usually fine to leave them in a normal school cause it provides them with a more realistic environment where they will be looked at pitied and despite all that will still need the strength to go on.
Question 4: Do you think its wrong that they do not have(to my knowledge) mentally disabled students. Or considering the schools situation and the way it works this is appropriate?
Yes it is wrong. In some countries you are not allowed to turn students away unless there is a definite reason. The reason must be because of the student causing harm to others or him/herself. Also metal exceptionalties can vary from learning disabilities and ADHD to dylexia and autism. The more extreme cases will have to be taken care of individually while minor learning disabilities will simply be adapted to from the teacher's teaching method. I think Yamaku's take on mental exceptionalities is, as long as they can achieve excellence with their exceptionalities then they will be allowed in the school, but if their exceptionalty will take a large toll of their education they will try to circumvent around and send the child somewhere else. Since there are many discussions on whether or not Rin is autistic and Misha possibly having a mental exceptionality (such as aspergers) as well.
Question 5: Who do you think would fund a school like Yamaku?
Shizune or Lilly maybe? Joking aside, there will be many charities that may help support it slightly and many companies may donate some to them to look good, but a majority of it will be paid by the government through our taxes, and also through high tuition.
Question 6: Should the school also allow non-disabled students to get their education there?
Yes, why not? As long as they are there to learn and are not outright bullying and insulting people there is no reason not to. On their end though, people will generally assume there is a problem with him/her if the person went to Yamaku and therefore making job searching a bit harder.
it will most likely work as it is shown, just with better accessibility, not up on a mountain that is a pain to climb up to with doors and walkways more wheelchair accessible. With ramps by the stairs, handrails lining the school. There will need to be a method for travel for the blind and motorly disabled outside instead of the random trails. There will at the very least have those yellow tiles for coordination. There will also need to be some kind of pet rule, for seeing eye dogs and the like. Student Council will have to be better reinforced and dignified instead of two members as they are the "face" of the school. There will be a lot more teachers, possibly having two teachers per class, one as the expert the other as the assistant for those who need it. The visibly impaired will have their own individual class, and the deaf will have one individual class. Many similar exceptionalities will be grouped together in classes so they can be tended and sympathize with each other.
Question 2: Do you think Yamaku is a good idea? Do you think its needed? (There are schools that are similar. but are not like Yamaku)
There is a whole massive debate on this. A whole equality vs equity controversy, who will pay, how much will it cost, is it a public school, if it is private who gets to go... You can talk about it for years and I doubt anyone will know the answer.
Question 3: How many people know physically disabled people, family or friends (might be personal so no need to elaborate), Do you think they would benefit from a school like Yamaku if given the chance?
I work with them. Some do benefit, some do not. Totally depends on the person and their attitude. If they need constant supervision then hospital schools. If they need to watch their medicine, any school with a pharmacy nearby. If they physical accessibility (wheel chairs for example) they need to go to a school that has wheel chair accessibility. If it does not effect their work ethics it is usually fine to leave them in a normal school cause it provides them with a more realistic environment where they will be looked at pitied and despite all that will still need the strength to go on.
Question 4: Do you think its wrong that they do not have(to my knowledge) mentally disabled students. Or considering the schools situation and the way it works this is appropriate?
Yes it is wrong. In some countries you are not allowed to turn students away unless there is a definite reason. The reason must be because of the student causing harm to others or him/herself. Also metal exceptionalties can vary from learning disabilities and ADHD to dylexia and autism. The more extreme cases will have to be taken care of individually while minor learning disabilities will simply be adapted to from the teacher's teaching method. I think Yamaku's take on mental exceptionalities is, as long as they can achieve excellence with their exceptionalities then they will be allowed in the school, but if their exceptionalty will take a large toll of their education they will try to circumvent around and send the child somewhere else. Since there are many discussions on whether or not Rin is autistic and Misha possibly having a mental exceptionality (such as aspergers) as well.
Question 5: Who do you think would fund a school like Yamaku?
Shizune or Lilly maybe? Joking aside, there will be many charities that may help support it slightly and many companies may donate some to them to look good, but a majority of it will be paid by the government through our taxes, and also through high tuition.
Question 6: Should the school also allow non-disabled students to get their education there?
Yes, why not? As long as they are there to learn and are not outright bullying and insulting people there is no reason not to. On their end though, people will generally assume there is a problem with him/her if the person went to Yamaku and therefore making job searching a bit harder.
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Re: Questions about Yamaku
Question 1: How do you think a school like Yamaku would work? (Other than what we've been shown.) Would you change some things about the school?
Like it is right now, it wouldn't work. As stated above, a deaf/mute student in a normal class wouldn't work, for example. It could exist if there was specialized classes, much like Lilly's blind class, because the idea of a school with permanent nursing services could work. Unfortunately, I don't think there would be enough attendence for it to stay opened.
Question 2: Do you think Yamaku is a good idea? Do you think its needed? (There are schools that are similar. but are not like Yamaku)
I answered most of this question in answer 1. Good idea, but not needed because there wouldn't enough students.
Question 3: How many people know physically disabled people, family or friends (might be personal so no need to elaborate), Do you think they would benefit from a school like Yamaku if given the chance?
I do not know anyone with physical disabilities. I used to know someone ; when I was in high school year 1 (ok, quick aside. I live in Quebec, so the education system is different. From age 4-5, we go in kindergarten for 2 years, then in primary school for 6 years, then in high school for 5 years. After, we can go to a CÉGEP, which is much like college). So, when I was in high school year 1 (I was 12 years old), there was a boy in year 5 (he was then 17) who had a physical disability ; he was very weak physically, so he used a wheelchair or 2 canes, and he had trouble speaking. I'm not sure how his disability was named. Anyway, he had no trouble going around in the school, he had good friends and good grades, and his condition wasn't serious enough to need a nearby nursing system. I don't think he would have been better in Yamaku than in a normal high school.
Question 4: Do you think its wrong that they do not have(to my knowledge) mentally disabled students. Or considering the schools situation and the way it works this is appropriate?
As Yamaku is right now, it is appropriate that they refuse mentally disabled students. If they used my idea from earlier and splitted the school in differents sections and classes, it could work. My cousin is autist, and at 16 years old he goes in a specialized school for students with brain disorder. And really, I wouldn't see him going to a normal school, much less in a school full of physically disabled students.
Edit : I add this because of the previous post, which was made while I was writing. We must define what kind of mental disorder we are talking for this question. My cousin have autism at it's highest point ; he couldn't go to a normal school since he would risk to harm himself or the others. I have asperger syndrome, and I went to a private, but normal high school just fine. There is no reason to refuse someone with something as simple as asperger syndrome, ADT, hyperactivity, dyslexia, etc. even if the school is said to refuse mentally disabled student. On the other hand, heavy disablity such as autism must be handled differently, and those students are better in specialized schools. In a school like Yamaku, which doesn't have the facilities or the persons to handle mental disabilities, it's best to refuse those students, as would a normal school.
Question 5: Who do you think would fund a school like Yamaku?
If I had the money and if there was enough students to fill the school, I would. In fact, anyone who is or want to be a school principal could decide to make it specifically for disabled student, physically or mentally, or both. In Quebec, which society is slightly more "left" than in USA, there would be good support from the governement.
Question 6: Should the also allow non-disabled students to get their education there?
Yes. I don't see any reason to refuse them, especially if the school attendance is too low. Of course, those student wouldn't beneficit from governement help, and the school would surely be a little pricey.
Like it is right now, it wouldn't work. As stated above, a deaf/mute student in a normal class wouldn't work, for example. It could exist if there was specialized classes, much like Lilly's blind class, because the idea of a school with permanent nursing services could work. Unfortunately, I don't think there would be enough attendence for it to stay opened.
Question 2: Do you think Yamaku is a good idea? Do you think its needed? (There are schools that are similar. but are not like Yamaku)
I answered most of this question in answer 1. Good idea, but not needed because there wouldn't enough students.
Question 3: How many people know physically disabled people, family or friends (might be personal so no need to elaborate), Do you think they would benefit from a school like Yamaku if given the chance?
I do not know anyone with physical disabilities. I used to know someone ; when I was in high school year 1 (ok, quick aside. I live in Quebec, so the education system is different. From age 4-5, we go in kindergarten for 2 years, then in primary school for 6 years, then in high school for 5 years. After, we can go to a CÉGEP, which is much like college). So, when I was in high school year 1 (I was 12 years old), there was a boy in year 5 (he was then 17) who had a physical disability ; he was very weak physically, so he used a wheelchair or 2 canes, and he had trouble speaking. I'm not sure how his disability was named. Anyway, he had no trouble going around in the school, he had good friends and good grades, and his condition wasn't serious enough to need a nearby nursing system. I don't think he would have been better in Yamaku than in a normal high school.
Question 4: Do you think its wrong that they do not have(to my knowledge) mentally disabled students. Or considering the schools situation and the way it works this is appropriate?
As Yamaku is right now, it is appropriate that they refuse mentally disabled students. If they used my idea from earlier and splitted the school in differents sections and classes, it could work. My cousin is autist, and at 16 years old he goes in a specialized school for students with brain disorder. And really, I wouldn't see him going to a normal school, much less in a school full of physically disabled students.
Edit : I add this because of the previous post, which was made while I was writing. We must define what kind of mental disorder we are talking for this question. My cousin have autism at it's highest point ; he couldn't go to a normal school since he would risk to harm himself or the others. I have asperger syndrome, and I went to a private, but normal high school just fine. There is no reason to refuse someone with something as simple as asperger syndrome, ADT, hyperactivity, dyslexia, etc. even if the school is said to refuse mentally disabled student. On the other hand, heavy disablity such as autism must be handled differently, and those students are better in specialized schools. In a school like Yamaku, which doesn't have the facilities or the persons to handle mental disabilities, it's best to refuse those students, as would a normal school.
Question 5: Who do you think would fund a school like Yamaku?
If I had the money and if there was enough students to fill the school, I would. In fact, anyone who is or want to be a school principal could decide to make it specifically for disabled student, physically or mentally, or both. In Quebec, which society is slightly more "left" than in USA, there would be good support from the governement.
Question 6: Should the also allow non-disabled students to get their education there?
Yes. I don't see any reason to refuse them, especially if the school attendance is too low. Of course, those student wouldn't beneficit from governement help, and the school would surely be a little pricey.
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Re: Questions about Yamaku
Thanks for the replys i was afraid i wouldn't get any lol.
All very interesting answers, i'll definally think on them more, I can see many good points. I can see how a real Yamaku would have to be modified quite a bit considering the school in KS is more like a base model of what a real life school can be...and how it would be ran.
i think myself it could be possible, it would just take alot more work, and planning. Yamaku as a base model would be a good start though.
As for students, it would have to be private with dorms i would imagine cause like said in a answer not many students from near by anyways, i couldn't see it being a local public school. not enough Students.... it would have to be private with dorms to receive students from all over the place. Which again is possible...but hard.
Again thanks for the replys if anyone else wants to answer feel free
All very interesting answers, i'll definally think on them more, I can see many good points. I can see how a real Yamaku would have to be modified quite a bit considering the school in KS is more like a base model of what a real life school can be...and how it would be ran.
i think myself it could be possible, it would just take alot more work, and planning. Yamaku as a base model would be a good start though.
As for students, it would have to be private with dorms i would imagine cause like said in a answer not many students from near by anyways, i couldn't see it being a local public school. not enough Students.... it would have to be private with dorms to receive students from all over the place. Which again is possible...but hard.
Again thanks for the replys if anyone else wants to answer feel free
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