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Three Questions.... plus extras

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:14 am
by Shades of gray
1) (just curious) is shizune long or near sighted?

2) (Devs, feel free not to answer this if it spoils too much) In the demo, it was mentioned that Hisao's meds may be changed, now we know (or at least seem to know) that hisaos meds will affect his *cough* overall health, will this be a highlight in the game (I.E will he have issues due to changed meds etc? as someone who takes specific amounts of Mycophenolate and tacrolimus per day, i know how slight changes in medication can have affects.)

and 3) will we have control over if hisao does or doesn't take his meds? (i.e option at start/end of day?)

that is just some Qs i had.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:29 am
by Suriko
1) Shortsighted

2) No comment (sorry).

3) Don't think so. If there is (in a 'not confirming, nor denying' way), it's quite indirect.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:34 am
by Akroma
I can imagine certain events that could lead to Hisao accidentaly not taking his pills, but I think he is aware enough of his condition to not forget them on purpose


for instance, and kind of H-scene that doesn't take place in his room, like for example one of the girls rooms.

if he hasn't taken his meds before, he would have to sneak out at night to get them. not very romantic, is it? but romance aside, considering his stamina, he will probably fall asleep quickly afterwards, and forget his pills.

the only way I can see this averted is the h-scene causing immense chest pain, which reminds him to "swallow two daily to not die".



similar can even happen in his room, when he and one of the girls are making out, and he feels it's just grossly inapropriate to suddenly go "hey, wait a second, will ya?" and then proceeds to down the probably absurd amount of pills he will have to swallow.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:40 am
by G3n0c1de
This makes me wonder whether there are some medications that he absolutely has to take daily in order to live. That seems somewhat extreme. While dangerous, I think he could handle being off his medication for a while if he couldn't help it. It would become an issue quickly, but not so immediate that he wouldn't have time to react. And perhaps if he misses, it wouldn't be instant death, but he'd get sick, or more prone to a cardiac event.

Actually, all of the above works rather well.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:49 am
by PureLionHeart
I must admit, I've always pictured a rage scene in the game where his trouble dealing with his condition comes to a head and he just says "fuck it" and goes without the meds for a day or two, leading obviously to further debilitation and even further depression over the matter. It's the trigger I can't visualize, though...at least until coming to these boards and learning the whole ED issue. There's something to send an already somewhat depressed teenager over the edge - threat of being an eternal cherry. >_>

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:08 am
by a3d
I don't think Hisao will be stupid enough to stop taking his meds, unless it would be a part of one girl's path or we would be steaming towards a bad end.

Although the second question is a very interesting, I could see him changing his medication which would cause him mood swing possibly putting a strain on a relationship with one of the girls, and lets be honest folks; if that were the case in Hanako's path we would definitely get a suicide bad ending somewhere along the path.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:23 am
by Shades of gray
a3d wrote:Although the second question is a very interesting, I could see him changing his medication which would cause him mood swing possibly putting a strain on a relationship with one of the girls, and lets be honest folks; if that were the case in Hanako's path we would definitely get a suicide bad ending somewhere along the path.
ah i think you may have missed one thing : when i said having his meds changed, i meant officially by the Nurse.

my own meds get changed every now and then to try and reduce the number i take.

Suriko, many thanks for your answers, it was just idle curiosity on my part.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:59 pm
by PureLionHeart
a3d wrote:I don't think Hisao will be stupid enough to stop taking his meds, unless it would be a part of one girl's path or we would be steaming towards a bad end.

Although the second question is a very interesting, I could see him changing his medication which would cause him mood swing possibly putting a strain on a relationship with one of the girls, and lets be honest folks; if that were the case in Hanako's path we would definitely get a suicide bad ending somewhere along the path.
He was stupid enough to race the girl on the track team after two days of running with a heart condition, let's not rule out anything. :P

And I like that second idea, I have to say.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:44 pm
by Mirage_GSM
Considering he had his condition since birth without taking any meds, he probably won't go into cardiac arrest from forgetting to take them once, even if he is still weakened from his long hospital stay. He doesn't even have fixed times when he has to take them (other than "after waking up" and "before going to bed").
He probably won't be so foolish as to neglect taking them several days in a row.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:30 pm
by Wrench Wench
Remember kids. Hisao's condition is a lot worse than it was originally. The heart attack pretty much put him on the brink.

So forgetting to take his meds is going to leave him in bad shape or at the very least incredibly sluggish.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:25 pm
by Shades of gray
in regards to tablet taking, (and this may just be me) but i know when I've forgotten to take mine, and this may sound nuts but i get a sort of under the skin itch behind my left ear.

nowadays i barely even think about taking them, its just automatic for me to take my tabs with a cuppa tea in the morning and night.

Hey devs, how many tablets does hisao have anyway? cos i have 4 to take morning and night, and i just whack them all down in one. just another curious Q from me.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:13 am
by Minister of Gloom
Shades of gray wrote:in regards to tablet taking, (and this may just be me) but i know when I've forgotten to take mine, and this may sound nuts but i get a sort of under the skin itch behind my left ear.

nowadays i barely even think about taking them, its just automatic for me to take my tabs with a cuppa tea in the morning and night.

Hey devs, how many tablets does hisao have anyway? cos i have 4 to take morning and night, and i just whack them all down in one. just another curious Q from me.
An itch under your left ear? When I forget to take my meds I get crippling nausea, headaches, impotence, cold sweat, shakes, blurry vision, lethargy... The list goes on and on. And I only take Ritalin!(or some equivalent of it)
Hisao takes like a hundred pills every day, I'll be surprised if his head doesn't explode if he forgets about them.

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:56 am
by Shades of gray
Minister of Gloom wrote: An itch under your left ear? When I forget to take my meds I get crippling nausea, headaches, impotence, cold sweat, shakes, blurry vision, lethargy... The list goes on and on. And I only take Ritalin!(or some equivalent of it)
Hisao takes like a hundred pills every day, I'll be surprised if his head doesn't explode if he forgets about them.

i think its a psychological response, but god knows its useful to have a reminder, it usually only takes 2 hours after my tablet time (if i've forgotten) before i get the itch. and i wont even dare to miss several days worth of tablets (I ain't going back on dialysis)

Re: Three Questions....

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:10 pm
by Silentcook
Shades of gray wrote:Hey devs, how many tablets does hisao have anyway? cos i have 4 to take morning and night, and i just whack them all down in one. just another curious Q from me.
We didn't make up a list ahead of time, unless you count the "wall of drugs" in the OP, but I found a good sample later.

Then a couple of the writers picked up on the number and stuck it in the narration, so that kinda sorta became retroactively "official".

Re: Three Questions.... plus extras

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:13 pm
by SirMax
Weird. When I forget my medication, I just don't get the effects. No withdrawal symptoms like that.