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Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:27 am
by Loki
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/video_and_audio/8392111.stm

In case you can't access it, an italian man's had some elctrodes rigged up to his amuptated limb (well, not the limb itself, you know what I mean) and he now can control an artificial hand with his mind. Bionic Commando and Bionic Man/Woman aren't quite as far fetched anymore apparently.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:11 am
by Warwick
You'd think they'd give him a bionic left hand, since.. you know... that's the one HE LOST.

I'm losing track of all the stuff on bionics and prosthetics, but I thought this has been done before. I remember reading in PopSci a while ago about a man who has an entire arm prosthetic that responds to implants on his shoulder (but I think those were just surface contacts on the muscles? Who knows). There was something about him relearning to play the piano, too.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:52 pm
by Silentcook
Well fuck, my cover has been blown. Time to go deep under. :3

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:50 pm
by The Commissar
Huh, Europeans did it? You'd expect it would be Japan with the fascination they have on robotics.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:04 pm
by Bara
Cool that it has feedback to the user, but it is still a experimental prototype. It needs to be made into a wearable prosthetic device before I get excited about it.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:20 pm
by Deimos
What would be really interesting is how good his sense of touch with this mechanic hand is or did they just concentrate on imitating the flexibility of a real hand like the video described?

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:39 pm
by Bara
Deimos wrote:What would be really interesting is how good his sense of touch with this mechanic hand is or did they just concentrate on imitating the flexibility of a real hand like the video described?
Well, video easily shows motion but can't convey a sense of touch. They can only describe it verbaly, but unless the person it is being described to has shared that sensation and this being a experimental prototype with one operator.... not much shared experience.
Still, the real advance seems to be in the sensory feedback and I agree; I wish the article had focused more on that.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:58 pm
by EternalLurker
That scene with the water bottle seemed to show his sense of touch. That's the reason he had his eyes closed the entire time, looking down at the table: he was supposed to be able to sense when they tugged on the water bottle, and release it right then.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:19 pm
by toast
Warwick wrote:You'd think they'd give him a bionic left hand, since.. you know... that's the one HE LOST.

I'm losing track of all the stuff on bionics and prosthetics, but I thought this has been done before. I remember reading in PopSci a while ago about a man who has an entire arm prosthetic that responds to implants on his shoulder (but I think those were just surface contacts on the muscles? Who knows). There was something about him relearning to play the piano, too.
Yeah, I remember that. It was like a guy from kansas. They took the muscles that were left and transplanted them to his pectoral muscle, so the nerves regrew. Then they put corresponding electrodes on there so whenever he thought about moving his hand, it actually moved.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:09 am
by Nightdragon
Its amazing how far technology can go. No less then half a century ago the best people could get was a little claw for a hand. Now people can get an artificial limb that acts just like the real thing. They should use this for all those vets who come home from Iraq or Afghanistan missing arms, legs etc.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:13 pm
by Bara
Nightdragon wrote:Its amazing how far technology can go. No less then half a century ago the best people could get was a little claw for a hand. Now people can get an artificial limb that acts just like the real thing. They should use this for all those vets who come home from Iraq or Afghanistan missing arms, legs etc.
Actualy Dept. of Defense through Walter Reed Hopital is working with Dean Kamen the the guy who invented the Segway on improved prosthetics http://www.ted.com/talks/dean_kamen_pre ... c_arm.html

I know I linked this about a year or so ago pardon the re-link.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:13 am
by Nightdragon
Bara wrote:
Nightdragon wrote:Its amazing how far technology can go. No less then half a century ago the best people could get was a little claw for a hand. Now people can get an artificial limb that acts just like the real thing. They should use this for all those vets who come home from Iraq or Afghanistan missing arms, legs etc.
Actualy Dept. of Defense through Walter Reed Hopital is working with Dean Kamen the the guy who invented the Segway on improved prosthetics http://www.ted.com/talks/dean_kamen_pre ... c_arm.html

I know I linked this about a year or so ago pardon the re-link.
Yeah I've heard of that. Pretty crazy stuff right there. Hopefully I don't need to get one of those.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:58 am
by Bara
Nightdragon wrote:Yeah I've heard of that. Pretty crazy stuff right there. Hopefully I don't need to get one of those.
In a perfect world no one would need these devices, but I'm sure we all have noticed the slight lack of perfection in this world.

Just remember; "Once the pin is pulled Mr. Grenade is NOT your friend." :lol:

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:52 am
by Gash
Wooo. Not long before we get into the realm of augmentics.

Then its time to start trading in flesh for synthetic.

Re: Cool story bro: bionic limbs one step closer.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 pm
by Bara
Gash wrote:Wooo. Not long before we get into the realm of augmentics.

Then its time to start trading in flesh for synthetic.
Not quite, but closer every day it seems. DARPA (you know, the guys who brought you the Internet) is aiming for a neurally controlled artificial limb (meaning brain implants control the limb). By the time I'm old(er) the expression "Body and Fender Shop" may have a whole new meaning than it did when I was a kid. http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blo ... ants/4890/