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Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:40 pm
by Mirage_GSM
pretty much all of Shizune's route sees Misha suffering from [depression].
Well, there are many causes for depression.
I don't know if calcium deficiency is among them.
I'm pretty sure unrequited love is, though.
Guess which cause I think is more likely for Misha.

Besides, the day calcium deficiency (and similar stuff) is regognized as a disability 95% of all humans will be disabled.

Regarding the "dizzyness on stairs" stuff, that's been suggested dozens of times before and no argument so far was convincing:
- Misha says that when she wants Hisao to go fetch something for her. It is obviously an excuse.
- In the Act 1 finale Misha is perfectly able to ascend to the roof alone packed with foodstuffs without problems.
- There are other scenes as well with Misha on the roof. In on she's leaning against the fence without getting dizzy.
- Class 3-3's homeroom is on the third floor. The student council room is on the ground floor. Hisao probably walked that route with Shizune and Misha hundreds of times during the schoolyear. He never mentions a single occasion of Misha getting dizzy on the stairs or of her preferring to use an elevator. If something like that had happened, it would have been relevant to the story and would have had to be mentioned in some way.

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:11 pm
by Xanatos
Nirayesto wrote:Japanese people do not put anything in their green teas.
I wasn't aware that all Japanese people are required by unbreakable natural forces to never put anything in their tea.

:P Eating a lot could just mean she's a glutton for sweets.

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:41 pm
by lopalop2
I had always just thought that since she was trying to learn sign language, which is not commonly taught, and work with deaf people she had gotten special permission to switch into the school as it both teaches sign language and has students who are deaf

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:23 am
by Comrade
Or maybe she has some condition that gradually turns her deaf?

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:40 am
by Lianam
Comrade wrote:Or maybe she has some condition that gradually turns her deaf?
Or maybe she has no disability at all? I mean, if she had one it'd probably be noted [shimmie= 1827]here[/shimmie], just like everyone else in the class.

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:08 am
by Comrade
Lianam wrote:
Comrade wrote:Or maybe she has some condition that gradually turns her deaf?
Or maybe she has no disability at all? I mean, if she had one it'd probably be noted [shimmie= 1827]here[/shimmie], just like everyone else in the class.
Yeah yeah sure but what's the fun in that?

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:45 am
by Kyler Thatch
I don't know about you, but the idea of a non-disabled kid studying at Yamaku sounds pretty interesting to me.

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:52 am
by Comrade
Kyler Thatch wrote:I don't know about you, but the idea of a non-disabled kid studying at Yamaku sounds pretty interesting to me.
Thats actually something i thought to write about, maybe i'll get to thefe one day

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:16 pm
by Lianam
Comrade wrote:
Kyler Thatch wrote:I don't know about you, but the idea of a non-disabled kid studying at Yamaku sounds pretty interesting to me.
Thats actually something i thought to write about, maybe i'll get to thefe one day
Thefe?

Speaking of which, should I just give up on you continuing "Zombies"? Just wondering...

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:23 pm
by Comrade
Lianam wrote:
Comrade wrote:
Kyler Thatch wrote:I don't know about you, but the idea of a non-disabled kid studying at Yamaku sounds pretty interesting to me.
Thats actually something i thought to write about, maybe i'll get to thefe one day
Thefe?

Speaking of which, should I just give up on you continuing "Zombies"? Just wondering...
Not yet, I've been too busy to give it any time lately, but I'll get back to it when things clear up a bit

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:12 am
by valoth
First of all she was sent there as part of a sign language program to help Shizune. Secondly it is never said that she has a disability, but her loud nature (in my opinion) could just be her personality, OCD, ADHD, or Angelman Syndrome.

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:22 am
by wazuzu
valoth wrote:First of all she was sent there as part of a sign language program to help Shizune. Secondly it is never said that she has a disability, but her loud nature (in my opinion) could just be her personality, OCD, ADHD, or Angelman Syndrome.
You're missing the point. This thread isn't about explanation, it's about speculation based upon unclear existing information.

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:33 am
by ProfAllister
valoth wrote:First of all she was sent there as part of a sign language program to help Shizune.
That would be an excellent point, if it were supported by anything in the test. It says no such thing (and conflicts quite a bit with the fact that a significant portion of the student body is deaf).
Secondly it is never said that she has a disability,
Never said that she does, but never said that she doesn't, either. Half the fun is speculation and carefully parsing every word.
but her loud nature (in my opinion) could just be her personality, OCD, ADHD, or Angelman Syndrome.
Each of those theories has been discussed in this thread, with varying degrees of likelihood:

Personality: Sure, why not?

OCD/ADHD: I guess it's possible, but, like Autism, those are conditions that are notorious for being depicted poorly. As a result, (competent) authors tend to avoid them unless they're making a point of going for an accurate depiction. So I'd consider those unlikely.

Angelman Syndrome: I've specifically addressed this one before, since it's a little problematic. The summary description on wikipedia makes it sound like a reasonable (if somewhat far-fetched) possibility. Looking in detail at any medical literature shows that it falls somewhere between "extremely improbably" and "no chance in hell."

[grumpyoldcodger]I have no objection to newcomers contributing to discussions without requiring them to read the entirety of the discussion that happened before them, but it really should be common courtesy to use the "Search this topic" feature to make sure you're at least bringing a new perspective to an old argument. There are countless instances of "I haven't read the 60+ pages, but (verbatim argument that's already been presented 10 times)."[/grumpyoldcodger]

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:43 pm
by valoth
wazuzu wrote:
valoth wrote:First of all she was sent there as part of a sign language program to help Shizune. Secondly it is never said that she has a disability, but her loud nature (in my opinion) could just be her personality, OCD, ADHD, or Angelman Syndrome.
You're missing the point. This thread isn't about explanation, it's about speculation based upon unclear existing information.
Oh my bad kinda went over my head. But I still think in all honesty if she does have a disability it's ADHD

Re: Misha's disabillity?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:45 pm
by valoth
ProfAllister wrote:
valoth wrote:First of all she was sent there as part of a sign language program to help Shizune.
That would be an excellent point, if it were supported by anything in the test. It says no such thing (and conflicts quite a bit with the fact that a significant portion of the student body is deaf).
Secondly it is never said that she has a disability,
Never said that she does, but never said that she doesn't, either. Half the fun is speculation and carefully parsing every word.
but her loud nature (in my opinion) could just be her personality, OCD, ADHD, or Angelman Syndrome.
Each of those theories has been discussed in this thread, with varying degrees of likelihood:

Personality: Sure, why not?

OCD/ADHD: I guess it's possible, but, like Autism, those are conditions that are notorious for being depicted poorly. As a result, (competent) authors tend to avoid them unless they're making a point of going for an accurate depiction. So I'd consider those unlikely.

Angelman Syndrome: I've specifically addressed this one before, since it's a little problematic. The summary description on wikipedia makes it sound like a reasonable (if somewhat far-fetched) possibility. Looking in detail at any medical literature shows that it falls somewhere between "extremely improbably" and "no chance in hell."

[grumpyoldcodger]I have no objection to newcomers contributing to discussions without requiring them to read the entirety of the discussion that happened before them, but it really should be common courtesy to use the "Search this topic" feature to make sure you're at least bringing a new perspective to an old argument. There are countless instances of "I haven't read the 60+ pages, but (verbatim argument that's already been presented 10 times)."[/grumpyoldcodger]
Caught my wikipedia search huh? Anyway i think it is ADHD if anything.