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Xanatos wrote:...Fair point. And there was consent. If your girlfriend walks in and starts fucking you, you don't call it rape just because she didn't go through some mood-ruining back-and-forth to get explicit permission first. The consent is implied, and that counts. Just ask Shizune.

I tried but she just made a bunch of gang signs.

muliebrity wrote:

Xanatos wrote:...Fair point. And there was consent. If your girlfriend walks in and starts fucking you, you don't call it rape just because she didn't go through some mood-ruining back-and-forth to get explicit permission first. The consent is implied, and that counts. Just ask Shizune.

I tried but she just made a bunch of gang signs.

...You are a delightful person.

Yeah, I don't really buy the whole rape thing. Hisao certainly wasn't threatening, or making her afraid, and even someone as timid as Hanako is going to put up some kind of fight if she doesn't want him inside her.


Anyway, if we're going to rate the girls H-Scenes:

Still haven't played Shizune.

Hanako - Kind of upsetting in a "Get off her you horny bastard, you're hurting her!" sort of way.

Rin - Didn't feel anything to be perfectly honest. Pleasant enough, but I find her about as sexy as an eleven year old boy. Sorry Rin Kin.

Emi - Fapped a bit to the dry humping scene. Found the shed scene a little uncomfortable, but in the end it was kinda funny. He final one was just sweet. I love how she can be a sex machine one minute, then go right back to being a sweet, loveable girl the next.

Lilly - Wow, woman is a freakin goddess. The first scene was just amazing sexy but romantic. While their cuddling in the bathtub was just adorable and playful. And I was just in awe of the final scene where she fingered herself. Even if it did have an unpleasant ending.

Ah, Lily: the most probable person who can get all the girls into an onsen.

Umber wrote:Anyone else here think that Shizune's H-scenes could've been taken out of the game, and the story wouldn't have changed much? It does make her arc move a bit, but, unlike Hanako's, it didn't really feel necessary to me that she had to have sex with Hisao.

The second one is only there for the sake of being there, the first one could take place anywhere else and as long as the same thing happened it would not lose anything. I think the time we spend at Shizunes house is wasted and the only thing we gain is her sex scene and that we learn that she and Lilly is related. Both could have been don anywhere else and nothing would have been lost.

ArcCain wrote:

Umber wrote:Anyone else here think that Shizune's H-scenes could've been taken out of the game, and the story wouldn't have changed much? It does make her arc move a bit, but, unlike Hanako's, it didn't really feel necessary to me that she had to have sex with Hisao.

The second one is only there for the sake of being there, the first one could take place anywhere else and as long as the same thing happened it would not lose anything. I think the time we spend at Shizunes house is wasted and the only thing we gain is her sex scene and that we learn that she and Lilly is related. Both could have been don anywhere else and nothing would have been lost.

I see where you're coming from, and I somewhat agree with you on that one. I'm actually glad the first scene happened at her house though. The vacation to her house also introduced her trap of a brother Hideaki and the man himself, Jigoro. The fact that the first scene took place in his own house with his daughter while he was none the wiser felt like a personal victory for me.

You've gotta appreciate the little things my friend.

SpecimenSix wrote:I see where you're coming from, and I somewhat agree with you on that one. I'm actually glad the first scene happened at her house though. The vacation to her house also introduced her trap of a brother Hideaki and the man himself, Jigoro. The fact that the first scene took place in his own house with his daughter while he was none the wiser felt like a personal victory for me.

You've gotta appreciate the little things my friend.

True, Jigoro is amazing but even he can´t make the time we wast in her arc worth it.

ArcCain wrote:

SpecimenSix wrote:I see where you're coming from, and I somewhat agree with you on that one. I'm actually glad the first scene happened at her house though. The vacation to her house also introduced her trap of a brother Hideaki and the man himself, Jigoro. The fact that the first scene took place in his own house with his daughter while he was none the wiser felt like a personal victory for me.

You've gotta appreciate the little things my friend.

True, Jigoro is amazing but even he can´t make the time we wast in her arc worth it.

I liked her arc. It wasn't my favorite but I still thought it was pretty good. And I think you underestimate the power of Jigoro.

ArcCain wrote:

Umber wrote:Anyone else here think that Shizune's H-scenes could've been taken out of the game, and the story wouldn't have changed much? It does make her arc move a bit, but, unlike Hanako's, it didn't really feel necessary to me that she had to have sex with Hisao.

The second one is only there for the sake of being there, the first one could take place anywhere else and as long as the same thing happened it would not lose anything. I think the time we spend at Shizunes house is wasted and the only thing we gain is her sex scene and that we learn that she and Lilly is related. Both could have been don anywhere else and nothing would have been lost.

Shizune's route could probably half half it's scenes cut without losing anything significant. There's a lot that doesn't happen in her route.

Oddball wrote:

ArcCain wrote: The second one is only there for the sake of being there, the first one could take place anywhere else and as long as the same thing happened it would not lose anything. I think the time we spend at Shizunes house is wasted and the only thing we gain is her sex scene and that we learn that she and Lilly is related. Both could have been don anywhere else and nothing would have been lost.

Shizune's route could probably half half it's scenes cut without losing anything significant. There's a lot that doesn't happen in her route.

In fairness, Hisao's mostly just a bystander to Shizune's problems, albeit he does get dragged into the problematic relationship between her and Misha. And, Shizune loves him.

I guess if we saw Shizune's arc from Shizune's perspective, we could say that 'things happened.' But that's not the case, so we'll have to deal with an inefficient Hisao that doesn't do much, though he tries. I think.

Xanatos wrote:And FYI, I attempted fapping at every scene and found Hanako's only slightly fappable by turning off the text and ignoring the context of the scene.

I can agree with you there. Hanako's scene was visually sexy, but emotionally exhausting, which sort of ruins the sexy vibe for me. Also, her expressions throughout the scene show that she was uncomfortable, so I thought it felt a bit wrong.

I can say that I didn't even get a single wiggle, down there, during my play through of KS. I stayed flaccid during the entire read, and several weeks after completion. (Lost all sex-drive for a while.) There were sexy moments in the game, I just thought it wasn't appropriate to be turned on by them. It would feel... wrong, for some reason.

KeiichiO wrote:

Xanatos wrote:And FYI, I attempted fapping at every scene and found Hanako's only slightly fappable by turning off the text and ignoring the context of the scene.

I can agree with you there. Hanako's scene was visually sexy, but emotionally exhausting, which sort of ruins the sexy vibe for me. Also, her expressions throughout the scene show that she was uncomfortable, so I thought it felt a bit wrong.

I can say that I didn't even get a single wiggle, down there, during my play through of KS. I stayed flaccid during the entire read, and several weeks after completion. (Lost all sex-drive for a while.) There were sexy moments in the game, I just thought it wasn't appropriate to be turned on by them. It would feel... wrong, for some reason.

Xanatos calls that the 'Katawa Dick Syndrome,' and it's a fairly universal experience that applies to most people that read the KS.

IMO, the only times that make the notion of getting off on the H-scenes somewhat plausible are during Emi's arc, Shizune's second scene, and...Lilly.

Umber wrote:

KeiichiO wrote:

Xanatos wrote:And FYI, I attempted fapping at every scene and found Hanako's only slightly fappable by turning off the text and ignoring the context of the scene.

I can agree with you there. Hanako's scene was visually sexy, but emotionally exhausting, which sort of ruins the sexy vibe for me. Also, her expressions throughout the scene show that she was uncomfortable, so I thought it felt a bit wrong.

I can say that I didn't even get a single wiggle, down there, during my play through of KS. I stayed flaccid during the entire read, and several weeks after completion. (Lost all sex-drive for a while.) There were sexy moments in the game, I just thought it wasn't appropriate to be turned on by them. It would feel... wrong, for some reason.

Xanatos calls that the 'Katawa Dick Syndrome,' and it's a fairly universal experience that applies to most people that read the KS.

IMO, the only times that make the notion of getting off on the H-scenes somewhat plausible are during Emi's arc, Shizune's second scene, and...Lilly.

I've only just recently recovered from Katawa Dick Syndrome, though still don't think it's appropriate to fap to the scenes in the game.

And I can agree with you there. My personal favorite scene was Shizune's second scene. Sex in the student council office, FUCK YEAH! Lilly's were also amazing, and Emi's were pretty good as well, despite awkward situations in the shed

KeiichiO wrote:I've only just recently recovered from Katawa Dick Syndrome, though still don't think it's appropriate to fap to the scenes in the game.

Come on, why not? They're people, too. I found them pretty... Interesting. But then, a loving relationship is my fetish.

And I can agree with you there. My personal favorite scene was Shizune's second scene. Sex in the student council office, FUCK YEAH! Lilly's were also amazing, and Emi's were pretty good as well, despite awkward situations in the shed

I think Emi's shed scene was unsexy, but added a lot to her character. It made her more real, I know that I've had some awkward moments with each of my past girlfriends, and that's actually what makes the presentation of sex in the story so convincing. It elevated the whole thing above mere fap material.

Personally, I thought that Emi's and Lilly's were the best, largely because they flowed into the story really well. Also Shizune's because thigh highs.

muliebrity wrote:Come on, why not? They're people, too. I found them pretty... Interesting. But then, a loving relationship is my fetish.

They're certainly interesting, no doubt about that. I still got excited, (not like that) from the sex scenes, but they simply weren't fappable to me. Hard to explain.

Muliebrity wrote:I think Emi's shed scene was unsexy, but added a lot to her character. It made her more real, I know that I've had some awkward moments with each of my past girlfriends, and that's actually what makes the presentation of sex in the story so convincing. It elevated the whole thing above mere fap material.

Personally, I thought that Emi's and Lilly's were the best, largely because they flowed into the story really well. Also Shizune's because thigh highs.

I can totally agree 100% on that subject. God knows I've been in awkward situations with past girlfriends. Even a situation VERY SIMILAR to Emi's shed scene, but you don't need to know the details... It does make for a more real story. Situations that people can relate to make a story... more relatable...

Also, I know right?! Thigh-highs HNNNNnnnnnnGGGGG