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Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:08 pm
by Beanwell
If you think KS is the most feelsy VN ever, you are wrong. Very wrong.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:26 pm
by Deardrops
Beanwell wrote:If you think KS is the most feelsy VN ever, you are wrong. Very wrong.
Yeah you're probably right haha. :') It's the most feelsy one I've had so far though that's for sure.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:41 pm
by Mysterious Stranger
Beanwell wrote:If you think KS is the most feelsy VN ever, you are wrong. Very wrong.
Because feels are a quantifiable and entirely objective concept and are not subject to individual preference in any way.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:18 pm
by Beanwell
Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Beanwell wrote:If you think KS is the most feelsy VN ever, you are wrong. Very wrong.
Because feels are a quantifiable and entirely objective concept and are not subject to individual preference in any way.
The statement "Katawa Shoujo is not the most feelsy visual novel ever" is subjective.
That's my individual opinion. Are you saying I am not allowed to disagree with others?

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:55 pm
by Flutterz
Beanwell wrote:
Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Beanwell wrote:If you think KS is the most feelsy VN ever, you are wrong. Very wrong.
Because feels are a quantifiable and entirely objective concept and are not subject to individual preference in any way.
The statement "Katawa Shoujo is not the most feelsy visual novel ever" is subjective.
That's my individual opinion. Are you saying I am not allowed to disagree with others?
However the statement "You are wrong" is objective. You can disagree with a subjective opinion all you like, but you can't really say it's wrong.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:57 pm
by Mysterious Stranger
Beanwell wrote:If you think KS is the most feelsy VN ever, you are wrong. Very wrong.
Beanwell wrote:The statement "Katawa Shoujo is not the most feelsy visual novel ever" is subjective.
That's my individual opinion. Are you saying I am not allowed to disagree with others?
These two statements are so ludicrously opposite, I actually laughed out loud when I confirmed that they were made by the same person.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:28 pm
by Beanwell
Well, I know of course he wasn't really "wrong", but...iunno. I wasn't trying to be serious. "You are wrong" is on objectively subjective statement. As in, it seems objective but it's actually subjective. I guess I was trying to state what I thought in an "objective" manner to emphasize my opinion, but then when you said "Because feels obviously can be measured", I meant to say that...nevermind, I dunno how to explain it.

And yes, I am an idiot. When I read your post, I actually buried my face in my hands out of embarrassment.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:54 pm
by Xanatos
OtakuNinja wrote:I don't care if it isn't translated. I can read some Japanese, and the rest is easy to translate via google. :)
You do know Google can't translate worth shit, right? :lol:

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:08 pm
by Beanwell
Xanatos wrote:
OtakuNinja wrote:I don't care if it isn't translated. I can read some Japanese, and the rest is easy to translate via google. :)
You do know Google can't translate worth shit, right? :lol:
Having to translate every line would be a pain :?

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:19 pm
by OtakuNinja
Beanwell wrote:
Xanatos wrote:
OtakuNinja wrote:I don't care if it isn't translated. I can read some Japanese, and the rest is easy to translate via google. :)
You do know Google can't translate worth shit, right? :lol:
Having to translate every line would be a pain :?
It's with Google as it's with Japanese; it's up to the reciever to interpret what was said. By mixing the two together, it shouldn't be that much harder. Besides, I'd do everything in order to play Narcissu 3rd :)

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:29 pm
by Mysterious Stranger
Beanwell wrote:Well, I know of course he wasn't really "wrong", but...iunno. I wasn't trying to be serious. "You are wrong" is on objectively subjective statement. As in, it seems objective but it's actually subjective. I guess I was trying to state what I thought in an "objective" manner to emphasize my opinion, but then when you said "Because feels obviously can be measured", I meant to say that...nevermind, I dunno how to explain it.

And yes, I am an idiot. When I read your post, I actually buried my face in my hands out of embarrassment.
Haha, no worries. Happens to everyone - myself included, even on these forums.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:42 am
by Flutterz
Well damn, I never expected to go through Kanon so quickly... I guess that's what happens when you put together a free week and a good VN. :)
Great and feelsy story, the writing is also very well done, with tons of references to other routes or things you just don't know yet that you can only catch after reading said route or on subsequent playthroughs. Really enjoyed the winter theme, as pretty much all the other VNs I've read either don't have winter whatsoever or it is a rather mild winter and not too much emphasis is placed on it.
Turns out it's pretty fun to shock this thread back to life every now and again. :D I wonder how many VNs in a row I can go without hitting one that I don't want to recommend?
Next up is... *checks list* Air!

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:34 am
by Nobody in Particular
Flutterz wrote:Turns out it's pretty fun to shock this thread back to life every now and again. :D I wonder how many VNs in a row I can go without hitting one that I don't want to recommend?
That's actually one of the things I love about VNs. Most of the ones in, say, the top 100 on VNDB are really good and worthy of recommending. Probably because translators will only translate the good ones however.
Flutterz wrote:Next up is... *checks list* Air!
Air isn't translated. Hope you can read moon.

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:54 pm
by Flutterz
Nobody in Particular wrote:
Flutterz wrote:Turns out it's pretty fun to shock this thread back to life every now and again. :D I wonder how many VNs in a row I can go without hitting one that I don't want to recommend?
That's actually one of the things I love about VNs. Most of the ones in, say, the top 100 on VNDB are really good and worthy of recommending. Probably because translators will only translate the good ones however.
Flutterz wrote:Next up is... *checks list* Air!
Air isn't translated. Hope you can read moon.
Well, can you really blame them for not wanting to translate all the crap? :D
Speaking of which, is Air not very good, or is it simply that nobody gotten around to finishing a translation?
Anyway... that sucks.
But if you mean http://vndb.org/v15, it's already on my list, just further down.
In that case... Little Busters!

Re: Recommend a VN

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:23 pm
by Nobody in Particular
Flutterz wrote: Speaking of which, is Air not very good, or is it simply that nobody gotten around to finishing a translation?
Anyway... that sucks.
Isn't it like the highest selling KEY game in Japan? It's generally considered to be around the same level as Clannad and Little Busters, so clearly it is highly rated. It never got finished because originally the translation group got a C&D, then when another group picked it up later their main translator quit and they had to start all over again. Currently being translated, perhaps third time's the charm?
Flutterz wrote:But if you mean http://vndb.org/v15, it's already on my list, just further down.
No, I meant Japanese text. Never played that one myself.