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Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:37 pm
by Mercutio
Sajomir wrote:Man, all these comments involving Nurse make me think... suppose Hisao's meds did impede his sexual life. Awkward scene incoming where he has to ask Nurse about it, maybe get some alternative meds? o.O

Overall, I'd actually prefer that KS had no h-scenes at all. That being said, I really hope there's no rape scenes, either. Never did like those.
I think someone said that the meds Hisao's on can make it so he can't get it up. or "erectile dysfunction" if you want to get all technical. :mrgreen: so yeah, I kinda hope there's at least one awkward scene with Nurse where Hisao has to ask to be put on different meds 'cause of this. and not only does Nurse totally know why, he's had this conversation before.

and the devs have said that there'll be an option to not have the sex scenes show, but it's not like you get a recap or anything. they just don't show up. and you miss out on any character or story development that happens during (and probably just after) the sex. your loss if you skip 'em.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:58 pm
by [LaZa]
Mercutio wrote:
Sajomir wrote:Man, all these comments involving Nurse make me think... suppose Hisao's meds did impede his sexual life. Awkward scene incoming where he has to ask Nurse about it, maybe get some alternative meds? o.O

Overall, I'd actually prefer that KS had no h-scenes at all. That being said, I really hope there's no rape scenes, either. Never did like those.
I think someone said that the meds Hisao's on can make it so he can't get it up. or "erectile dysfunction" if you want to get all technical. :mrgreen: so yeah, I kinda hope there's at least one awkward scene with Nurse where Hisao has to ask to be put on different meds 'cause of this. and not only does Nurse totally know why, he's had this conversation before.

and the devs have said that there'll be an option to not have the sex scenes show, but it's not like you get a recap or anything. they just don't show up. and you miss out on any character or story development that happens during (and probably just after) the sex. your loss if you skip 'em.
I don't mind the H-scenes at all, but rape? I would prefer no actually, as the first act is almost all flowers 'n' pink speaking about love. I don't know how the devs would change the story of the VN to fit a rape scene, overall my opinion is a DO NOT WANT, even as a bad end.

Anyways, hooray for awkward Nurse conversations!

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:10 pm
by Merlyn_LeRoy
Mercutio wrote:
Sajomir wrote:Man, all these comments involving Nurse make me think... suppose Hisao's meds did impede his sexual life. Awkward scene incoming where he has to ask Nurse about it, maybe get some alternative meds? o.O

Overall, I'd actually prefer that KS had no h-scenes at all. That being said, I really hope there's no rape scenes, either. Never did like those.
I think someone said that the meds Hisao's on can make it so he can't get it up. or "erectile dysfunction" if you want to get all technical. :mrgreen: so yeah, I kinda hope there's at least one awkward scene with Nurse where Hisao has to ask to be put on different meds 'cause of this. and not only does Nurse totally know why, he's had this conversation before.
The "drug montage" in the hospital includes "erectile dysfunction" -- however, I really doubt that Nurse could/would change what drugs Hisao takes, and even if he could, Hisao would probably still need beta blockers, which are erection-discouragers all by themselves.

But what Nurse probably could do is prescribe some Viagra/Levitra/etc.
(trivia: Pfizer is trying to get FDA approval to use Viagra for a rare children's lung disorder. This is not as altruistic as it may first appear -- getting Viagra approved for a new use will extend its patent for six months, which is worth roughly a billion dollars)

I also agree that any rape scene would seem totally out of character for Hisao; the closest I could see would be Hisao misreading something like Hanako's extreme timidity/shyness as a signal from her that he needs to take the initiative and be more aggressive, and he just tries to go too far at some point. That seems much more believable, and could be written to cause similar kinds of emotional fallout if it was needed for the plot. But an actual rape or rape attempt would just be WTF HISAO!?

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:20 am
by Suriko
It should be noted (as it was in the panel) that the aforementioned scene was cut. And that there's no rape currently in the game.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:41 am
by neumanproductions
Suriko wrote:It should be noted (as it was in the panel) that the aforementioned scene was cut. And that there's no rape currently in the game.
So that means that you guys are still discussing how the sex scenes should play out. Interesting, this discussion might have just given me some new fic ideas.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:07 am
by Wrench Wench
I'm still hoping we get some rough sex with Shizune. If the girls not growling and tearing chunks out of poor Hisao then I shall be somewhat disappointed. If she suddenly turns all shy and bashful I shall wish so hard for a "skullfuck her" option that one shall spontaneously appear.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:15 am
by ContinualNaba
Eh, just so long as the devs remember the humour. Sex can be just as funny as it is awkward for first timers.

Then, it just ends up funny. Sex is funny.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:38 am
by Wrench Wench
Oh sweet zombie buddha yes. First times can be incredibly awkward and/or embarrassing.

So kids. What funny story do you think each of them will be left with from their first screw? Aside from impotence because we know thats coming. I predict Emi's legs being involved in hers.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:04 am
by kapparomeo
Mercutio wrote: I think someone said that the meds Hisao's on can make it so he can't get it up. or "erectile dysfunction" if you want to get all technical. :mrgreen: so yeah, I kinda hope there's at least one awkward scene with Nurse where Hisao has to ask to be put on different meds 'cause of this. and not only does Nurse totally know why, he's had this conversation before.
There's a knock at the door of the Nurse's office.

"Ah, young Master Nakai. To what do I owe this inimitable pleasure?"

Hisao shifts his feet, taps his fingers together, studies the light fittings, harrumphs, reads the "major food groups" chart on the wall by the door, slaps a nervous drumbeat against his thighs, hisses out a sigh and bites his lip.

"Well, y'see Nurse, I was wondering if you could... um... erm... provide me with - it's a bit embarrassing, I'm so sorry - something to help me with... um... with..."

"With...?"

"With - Oh God, what am I saying? I'm going to die here - uh, medications to help... help... helpmegetanerectioni'msososorryi'mreallysorrypleasedon'tthinkbadofme *GASP*"

The Nurse's broad, warm smile doesn't so much as twitch, yielding like a cushion to absorb the surprise.

"Why, certainly, Master Nakai."

Then his left eyelid opens, very slightly, and peers at Hisao through a thin slit.

"Provided that I can watch."

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:10 am
by Wrench Wench
Oh gods. That could happen in the Emi route I bet.

"Why sure Mr Nakai I'd be glad to help you give Emi a bit of the old porker. But I have to watch. You know to make sure nothing bad happens."

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:41 am
by kapparomeo
So kids. What funny story do you think each of them will be left with from their first screw? Aside from impotence because we know thats coming. I predict Emi's legs being involved in hers.
Hmm...

Emi - she tries to ride cowgirl but owing to her lack of knees she can't keep her balance, and topples backwards off of Hisao, tumbles head over heels over the edge of the bed, and slams against the floor.

Rin - because she doesn't have arms she can't grip onto the bedsheets, and so she and Hisao gradually ride up the bed until she's banging her head against the wall - and then she realises that she actually kind of likes it...

Shizune - although she can't speak, in the throes of pleasure she starts making distended screeching squeaks - Hisao, misinterpreting them and terrified that he's hurt her in some way, immediately throws on a dressing gown and runs to summon medical help.

Lilly - she can't see Hisao, so she tries to do the things that she's read about in books and be 'sensual', exploring her lover's body phyisically - only for her roving hands to poke him in the eye, give him a dead arm, chop him in the kidney and twist his leg the wrong way and strain a ligament.

Hanako - OH GOD, THE SCARS, THEY ARE LIKE SANDPAPER.

Misha - is in her room, clutching her body pillow and weeping with frustration.

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:45 am
by Wrench Wench
Oh wow.

Congratulations you made ones as bad as my first time.

Although on the Shizune one you ever see the video of that deaf girl auditioning for porn?

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:05 am
by kapparomeo
I've not seen it, but I've heard of it - I gather that the, er, "applicant" started transforming into the MGM Sound Studios' FX library with the amount of freaky noises that she was emitting.

I also suppose that Shizune, being as forthright as she is and someone who makes power plays for fun (re: the bill at Shanghai), is used to being the boss and that might condition her interpretation of sex to be not two people joining into one body but rather a case of "top" and "bottom". However, Shizune, so used to being planned and in control of every situation, suddenly finds herself powerless when she's with Hisao, and that new experience is bewildering, dislocating, disorienting, and actually quite terrifying. Lost in the flood of new sensations, she flails out trying to find something secure to hold onto, and so clumsily tries to 'regain control' by having a classic anime "BAKA HISAOOOOO!" moment and instinctively punching the poor helpless boy out. Can't catch a break, can he?

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:31 am
by Mercutio
Suriko wrote:It should be noted (as it was in the panel) that the aforementioned scene was cut. And that there's no rape currently in the game.
good to know, man, thank you.

and I'm totally in favor of awkward and hilarious first-time sex. I can see Hisao and Hanako fumbling around in the dark, 'cause she doesn't want the lights on, and afterward Hisao's all "I don't think we did that right," and when he approaches Hanako about having sex again, saying it should be better now that he sorta knows what he's doing, her response is "I-it's not supposed to be like that?"

...followed by "B-but all that hentai I watched..." if the devs are feeling devious. :mrgreen:

Re: About the game's erotica...

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:45 am
by Wrench Wench
kapparomeo wrote:I've not seen it, but I've heard of it - I gather that the, er, "applicant" started transforming into the MGM Sound Studios' FX library with the amount of freaky noises that she was emitting.

I also suppose that Shizune, being as forthright as she is and someone who makes power plays for fun (re: the bill at Shanghai), is used to being the boss and that might condition her interpretation of sex to be not two people joining into one body but rather a case of "top" and "bottom". However, Shizune, so used to being planned and in control of every situation, suddenly finds herself powerless when she's with Hisao, and that new experience is bewildering, dislocating, disorienting, and actually quite terrifying. Lost in the flood of new sensations, she flails out trying to find something secure to hold onto, and so clumsily tries to 'regain control' by having a classic anime "BAKA HISAOOOOO!" moment and instinctively punching the poor helpless boy out. Can't catch a break, can he?
Yeah sounded like a hippo mating with a car.

As for Shizune punching out Hisao reminds me of when I broke three of my partners ribs. But seriously? You're right she is likely to see it as a dominance thing but I doubt she'll end up suddenly terrified and flustered. She will probably hit him at least once though.