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KeiichiO wrote:

Oddball wrote:Oh, and about 98% of funerals in Japan involve cremation anyway, ... just so you know.

You seem to know a lot about Japan. Do you study their culture? Or are you a resident of Japan? Just curious.

I wouldn't say I've studied their culture, but since I've gotten into doing fanfic here, I've looked up lots of stuff, mainly to help keep the feel of the thing right and so I don't make too many huge mistakes.

Okay everyone. Lets all take a deep breath. Lets hug and be friends. I retract nothing however. I feel sad about thinking about something like this, seeing that I couldn't imagine how or why Hanako would die anytime near the time of the events at Yamaku.

That being said. Uhh...Uhh...Yamaku seems like an inclusive group. Even if they do have their own cliques. If one falls, I imagine they all would step in to say farewell to one of their own, their own liking of the person set aside. We've seen that in the Hanako line many times. Namely with the group work scene. Shizune breaks her own rules in a way and helped Hanako. And she was really good at it too. She did that, despite her being...I dont want to say it. But Im going to anyway. "Aligned" With Lilly. Why? It was the right thing to do, and I believe that Shizune, like ALL of the student body, really wants everyone to succeed, and be okay. So in short. Yes. Small ceremony. Lots of visitors. And if not visitors, a memorial of some sort put on by the school.

Lets go back to talking about happy stuff now. For greater justice. *nod nod*

Zailen wrote:Lets go back to talking about happy stuff now. For greater justice. *nod nod*

I agree. We can speculate on the darker parts of life and relate them to KS, though, next time, let's put some thought into it. Seriously, think really hard before you press that 'post' button.

Haha for sure. Luckilly! What I love about the KS community is that noone will ever tell another fan that they are downright WRONG about their opinion, or that they dont belong here. Everyone has a place.

However, that being said. I couldnt tell you HOW many times Ive posted, then went "OHGOD AM I GOING TO OFFEND PEOPLE OR SOUND STUPID I SURE HOPE NOT!"

Annnnd you know i panic for like four hours, then i check back and everything is cool.

OT: Perhaps everyone would leave an item or something. I can see chess pieces, books, and dolls being left. That would be nice

You're a good poster. You think before you click 'submit'. That's a very good attribute. Keep it up!

Also, opinions can't be wrong. That's why they are opinions.

KeiichiO wrote:You're a good poster. You think before you click 'submit'. That's a very good attribute. Keep it up!

Also, opinions can't be wrong. That's why they are opinions.

"Blue is the best color" is an opinion. What if someone else prefers green? That opinion is subjectively wrong.

"God does not exist" is an opinion. What happens if he actually exists? That opinion is objectively wrong. Facts cannot be wrong. Opinions are a crapshoot.

And Hisao and Lilly would play a chess game over Hanako's grave every year on the anniversary of her death.

Katie I understand you're a masochist and all, but seriously where will you stop?

Potato wrote:"God does not exist" is an opinion. What happens if he actually exists? That opinion is objectively wrong.

But "God does not exist" is not an opinion. There are no subjective terms in that statement. It is, therefore, a fact. If God does happen to exist, then yes it is incorrect, but it is still not an opinion.

Potato wrote:"Blue is the best color" is an opinion. What if someone else prefers green? That opinion is subjectively wrong.

"God does not exist" is an opinion. What happens if he actually exists? That opinion is objectively wrong. Facts cannot be wrong. Opinions are a crapshoot.

And Hisao and Lilly would play a chess game over Hanako's grave every year on the anniversary of her death.

My point was that people can believe what ever they want to, whether factual or not. If it's fact in their head, let it be. There's obvious exceptions, and people need to know the truth on some things, but if it's an opinion on a video game or something similar, it can't be defined as 'wrong'. It's what they believe, and telling them that their opinion is wrong is just, wrong.

@BlackWaltz: It's not wise to turn this into a religious debate. I'd stay clear of that subject just to make sure we don't offend anyone. (Not that I have any right in saying what people can post. I'm just looking out for people)

KeiichiO wrote:if it's an opinion on a video game or something similar, it can't be defined as 'wrong'.

In that case, Yuuko is best girl.

How might Kenji react to one of these alleged feminists dying, I wonder...

Potato wrote:In that case, Yuuko is best girl.

WRONG.

Rin is best girl. End of discussion.

Just kidding. Feel free to have your opinions. While I respect them, I have to strongly disagree with them

Indeed. Perhaps another example.

Plus you are both wrong.

SHIZUNE is CLEARLY best girl.

See. I believe this to be true. However I know for a fact that as far as opinions go, I would be in the minority here. Yet, knowing that. I give zero inches to back down on the ferocity of my opinion on the matter. However. It is still in itself, an opinion that I had conjured on my own, and is in no way any more correct than even those who enjoyed...Say...Lilly more.

I admit my tastes dont quite fit a more morbid idea about a story like this one. (Being Katawa Shoujo.) At least. Not in this sense. I understand there is some serious themes within it, however I'm the type that at least TRIES to look on the brighter side of things more often than not.

Should topics like this exist? I PERSONALLY think so, so long as there are grounds of it being a real discussion, or has evidence of something similar in the source material. This topic inparticular does, technically. Maybe not with Hanako, but death is a close friend to many students at Yamaku I'd imagine. Hisao included. So it's only natural to think about it, even if I'd prefer not to.

However, I don't believe that to be a free pass to talk about morbidity just for the sake of morbidity, which. I do not believe is happening here.

Besides. Hanako is never hated by anyone at YAMAKU. However, she doesn't really have any friends either, besides Lilly of course. Thus, my opinion still stands. Yamaku, like ANY school, would not take the death of one of their own lightly. It's just not a thing that people do. I imagine alot of people would walk around the halls thinking. "Gee. I wish I'd gotten a chance to get to know her better." Food for thought.

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(I agree that Shizune is the best girl. And she does, too! And Misha does, too!)

Zailen wrote:I imagine a lot of people would walk around the halls thinking. "Gee. I wish I'd gotten a chance to get to know her better." Food for thought.

I've often wondered what the thoughts of the cast might be after Hisao's untimely picnic-related death...It's bound to dampen the festival mood at the least.

KeiichiO wrote:@BlackWaltz: It's not wise to turn this into a religious debate. I'd stay clear of that subject just to make sure we don't offend anyone. (Not that I have any right in saying what people can post. I'm just looking out for people)

I wasn't trying to. My point was that being incorrect doesn't make something an opinion. It makes it a misnomer. "God is/isn't real" is a pair of fact and misnomer. Which is which is up to science to decide. Now, "I believe that God is/isn't real" on the other hand is an entirely different story...