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Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:18 am
by Xanatos
YZQ wrote:Tell me about it. There are so many times I could snark at the misplaced bravado. If the girl ever meets Hannibal Lecter, he'll break her more easily than a hot knife cuts through butter.
Oh, Hannibal would destroy these girls...And a part of me would love to see it.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:23 am
by YZQ
Except maybe Shizune. If Lecter knows signing, all bets are off. Of course, with the pen he probably can....
I should stop.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:32 am
by Xanatos
YZQ wrote:Except maybe Shizune. If Lecter knows signing, all bets are off. Of course, with the pen he probably can....
I should stop.
Even if he didn't, he's Hannibal Lecter. You don't beat him.
This thread took an odd turn.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:19 am
by Selim Bradley
Guest Poster wrote:Xanatos wrote:Warwise wrote:Yes, Emi works on her issues. They are not perfect yet, but she tries.
No, she doesn't. The entire conflict in her route is that she
doesn't work on them. She deliberately avoids acknowledging them wherever possible. She ignores the limitations put upon her by her physical issues (and ends up in a wheelchair for the effort) and refuses to ever even try handling her emotional issues (and ends up losing one companion for her trouble, two if you get the bad end and she leaves Hisao). The only work she does is in the good end when she finally moves past it.
As Hanako sees it, it's everyone else who has an issue with her, whether it's contempt or a need to fix her. That's what her life has taught her and she's resigned to it because
she can't work on that. You can't just "work on" everyone you've known suddenly hating you for no fault of your own. And when years of that contempt forcibly warps your perception of people, you can't just "work on" that either. Her experiences taught her that people are no good and you don't just unlearn that unless you somehow destroy the memory. Her issues
required an outsider's aid one way or the other because her own view has been horrendously skewed by her trauma. And she did
attempt to work on her problems. She went to therapy. It just didn't help.
Emi isn't resigned to being damaged goods. Emi's issues did not require outside assistance. She didn't attempt to fix things and fail. She's just running from it, pure and simple, because she is irrationally afraid and does not want to risk confronting that.
Xanatos put it very well. If you look between Hanako and Emi, it's Hanako who's still putting in the effort to address her issues. She's still visiting a therapist each week. (for all we know, it might actually help with some of her problems...Hanako probably has nightmares just like Emi on occasion) Hanako also admits near the end that when Lilly and Hisao entered her life, she made an honest effort to try and trust them. Hanako knows she has issues and is still working on them as best as she can, despite their magnitude. Emi simply refuses to acknowledge those issues exist in the first place which hardly qualifies as working on them.
I agree with Xanatos' assessment too. Also, doesn't it say that Hanako takes sleeping pils to help her too, or was that in a fanfic? I swear it was in there somewher, but can't remember.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:20 am
by YZQ
I'm sure it's not canon that Hanako took sleeping pills.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:41 am
by Selim Bradley
YZQ wrote:I'm sure it's not canon that Hanako took sleeping pills.
Ok. Probably a fanfic then. Thank you for answering. Though it's quite possible she does to help with the Traumatic Dreams she surely experiences. But like you said, not canon.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:43 am
by YZQ
Sleeping pills must be prescribed with great caution, due to the risk of addiction. I would think that doctors who want to sort out the insomia once and for all will find out the root cause and prescribe accordingly. Sleeping pills only treat symptoms.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:47 am
by Selim Bradley
YZQ wrote:Sleeping pills must be prescribed with great caution, due to the risk of addiction. I would think that doctors who want to sort out the insomia once and for all will find out the root cause and prescribe accordingly. Sleeping pills only treat symptoms.
I think in what I read (I remember it was a fanfic now) she was having a bad spell of them, so desperate times call for desperate measures.
But regardless, this is an Emi Thread, so I'll stop talking about this since I got my answer. Thanks again for answering.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:04 am
by pandaphil
YZQ wrote:I'm sure it's not canon that Hanako took sleeping pills.
I remembered that too, so I checked our old friend "Sisterhood" and yep. Its in the midpoint chapter where Hanako is visiting her therapist.
Miss Yumi:
“That’s good to hear. May I suggest we try a week without sleeping pills again and see if things remain that way? The worst weeks should be behind us for now.”
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:05 am
by Selim Bradley
pandaphil wrote:YZQ wrote:I'm sure it's not canon that Hanako took sleeping pills.
I remembered that too, so I checked our old friend "Sisterhood" and yep. Its in the midpoint chapter where Hanako is visiting her therapist.
Miss Yumi:
“That’s good to hear. May I suggest we try a week without sleeping pills again and see if things remain that way? The worst weeks should be behind us for now.”
That's the fanfic I was thinking of. Thank you.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:27 am
by YZQ
On the other hand, Emi and sleeping pills. For those days where she can't run.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:37 am
by Guest Poster
Miss Yumi: “That’s good to hear. May I suggest we try a week without sleeping pills again and see if things remain that way? The worst weeks should be behind us for now.”
Yeah, I figured Hanako had nightmare spells at certain times of the year, just like Emi. (around the anniversary of her accident) I didn't think it was illogical for her therapist to prescribe sleeping pills just to get her through a tough week or two and then stop after the worst period is over.
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:58 am
by YZQ
Emi/Hanako addicted to prescription drugs. Oh boy...
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:28 pm
by BananaPudding
There are actually quite a few sleeping pills that are "non-habit forming" I am on one, though I hear the addictive stuff is much better :b
Re: The truth about Emi's first relationship.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:36 pm
by Dr. Casey
BananaPudding wrote:There are actually quite a few sleeping pills that are "non-habit forming" I am on one, though I hear the addictive stuff is much better :b
Yeah, same here. I've been taking some for about three years, and they haven't resulted in anything except three years of good sleep, rather than three years of tossing and turning and sleeping only when exhaustion forced me to do so (which is basically what the three years preceding them were like). I think pills get an overly bad rap.