NoOne3 wrote:
You forgot to mention that masturbation is technically a genocide, you know?
And I can't really know what this rubber utensil has to do with being faithful to your significant other, married or not.
So while I don't really consider an abortion a viable option for dealing with unplanned pregnancy, I can't back you up all the way there.
Also, with a basis of such an orthodox wiev of life, how were you able to enjoy an erotic game, about unmarried delinquents' amorous adventures? With pictures? Oh, their sinfull ways...
Well, I'm NOT orthodox in any way (I think my status as "Official KS Boards Dirty Old Man" makes that pretty clear.) Yet I'm pretty much right with Paddy, at least as far as Abortion is concerned. Disagree with Paddy on contraception though, with the exception of the "Morning After" pill as that is essentially Abortion too.
My opposition to it stems from both a general love of all human life and the desire to not cause harm to the innocent. What is more innocent than a freshly conceived baby? Nothing I know of. Yet we as a society have somehow become so twisted that we deem these people "Un-people" and an inconvenience to be simply done away with. It's appalling.
We know from biology that these are fully and completely human beings right down to their genome. A conceived human, even while still a single cell is unique and different from any other cell in a woman's body. It is the only thing within her that will, given time, become a self-sustaining being. Yet we use ridiculous semantic arguments and talk of women's rights (50% of aborted babies are female. Don't THEY have rights too??) as though anyone could have the "right" to just do away with another human being because they are an inconvenience. Abhorrent.
We sit and claim moral superiority to our "barbaric" ancestors because we, enlightened scientific beings, have risen above their petty moral arguments and their hypocritical dark ages religious wars and the evil of slavery, yet we turn a blind eye to the MILLIONS we slaughter in the name of "convenience". Understand; We are
no better than they as long as this horror continues.
I'd like to relate a personal story if I may. As many of you know I am a father. I am also 40 years old, and my wife is 41. Yet last year, my wife discovered that she was pregnant with our 3rd child. Now, as I have stated, I have nothing against contraceptive measures. My wife cannot use the pill due to her age and due to issues with the chemistry conflicting with some other medication she is on, so we have used condoms. We had discussed surgical sterilization for one of us, but I wasn't comfortable putting my wife though the extensive surgery to have her tubes tied, and I was WAY to freaked out about having knives anywhere near my tackle to be able to go through with a vasectomy. (I know. I'm a coward. So sue me.) So we continued to use condoms. Hated them, but used them.
Then, one failed.
It didn't break, it LEAKED. (possibly a small flaw in the material, hard to say. But I know none broke, and I always used one so...) Regardless, we found ourselves suddenly expecting a third baby. As you can imagine this was quite a shock. We went though all sorts of emotional states, and for one terrible moment, even considered an abortion. We very quickly rejected that idea. Just thinking about it made us both feel sick and dirty. It wasn't the last time we would feel that way.
We eventually accepted, warmed to, and even became a bit excited about having another child. I had always wanted to have three, but with both our first having ASD we figured that the risk of another was too great, so we simply tried to avoid having another. Right around 6 weeks we went in for the regular sonogram checkup of the baby, and the doctor said that he was concerned about something on the sonagram and wanted a second opinion. He wouldn't say what it was though. So we went to the referred specialist at another local hospital and that was when we first heard the words "Your baby has Spina Bifida".
You can't imagine the pain. To JUST have gotten over the shock of having an unplanned pregnancy, and then just as you have accepted the change, to hear that your child has a life-threatening condition that will almost certainly leave her partially paralyzed... It's beyond description what that does to you.
It was at this time that Abortion was brought up yet again, this time by the doctor. Apparently this is the point when many women choose to simply kill the baby rather than give it a shot at life. After all, it has Spina Bifida. It's BROKEN, and not worth what a healthy baby is worth, right? I mean, why curse your baby to a life as a CRIPPLE? Better to simply kill it and save it (and yourself) from the pain and suffering... 80% of all babies diagnosed with Spina Bifida are aborted within the first Trimester. Because of twisted, fucked up logic like that.
As an aside, if you haven't learned from KS just how fucked up that kind of logic is, then you have learned nothing from KS. Go play Hanako's Bad Ending route AGAIN.
But, as I said, we had accepted that we were going to have a baby. Now it was just a matter of what to do about it. My wife's OBGYN referred us to Children's Hospital of Philadelphia as they had a procedure available that held great promise to possibly heal our baby. So we traveled to CHoP and went through a 3 day interview and examination process. We met multiple doctors, nurses, and a social worker. at least THREE TIMES during that trip we were offered Abortion as an option. By the third time i was so upset about it I exploded at the doctor who suggested it "WHAT THE FUCK IS YOU PEOPLE'S PROBLEM? WHY DO YOU KEEP SUGGESTING WE KILL OUR BABY? ARE YOU HERE TO SAVE LIVES OR NOT? DON'T YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME KIND OF HIPPOCRATIC OATH OR SOMETHING?!?!?!?!?!? My wife had to calm me down. I think I embarrassed her.
At any rate I apologized to the doctor, and he said it was OK. Apparently I wasn't the first to "pop" like that. I guess they are REQUIRED to suggest Abortion at least three times by PA state law (How screwed up is that?) and they hate doing it. Ironically, they have found that the parents that get the most upset by the suggestion are usually the most dedicated to their children's health, so I guess that's a point in my favor anyway.
As it turns out we were a "borderline" case for the procedure. What with my wife's age, her history of previous caesareans and some other issues, there was a real risk to her own life if we went through with it. Also, since our baby was 4L, the procedure was unlikely to elicit any real improvement. There could be SOME help in that it would prevent any further worsening of her condition, but it wouldn't "fix" her. In the end we talked and cried and even prayed about it, and decided not to go through with it. Instead we decided on the traditional route of a cesarean birth and then post-birth surgery to repair the lesion on our daughter's back. In the end it turns out she didn't get any worse. Her feet don't work, she has no sensation below the ankles, and she needed a shunt to help drain the fluids from her brain to due to a Chiarri type 2 brain malformation,(sounds scarier than it is) but everything else is perfect. She is a gorgeous, good natured, active and alert baby girl.
I can't pretend to know what the future holds for her, or for us. She may still develop ASD like her brother and sister. She may be perfectly average. She may be a singer (she has the lungs for it!). She may help pioneer new breakthroughs in spinal repair. She may even walk one day. I don't know. But I do know one thing for certain; if we had decided for Abortion, she would do nothing. She wouldn't exist. And we would never ever ever have had this moment:
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Why do we so easily deny these moments? Why do we destroy this innocence in the millions? Why haven't we learned how precious life is? Why are we still so backward and barbaric? Why can't we be better?
To be honest, Shiz's plot confused me a bit.
You just made my day. God bless you and yours, whether you believe in Him or not. 
