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Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:50 pm
by Deimos
Envy wrote:
Yes but the point is you want to read it five times? Because if Hisao is like, 'Oh God, how did this get here? I am not good with condom,' in one virginity losing sex scene there's little reason to believe he won't do the same thing in the rest of them with the other girls.
So yeah, include some embarrassing mistakes that happen during any first time sexual encounter just as long as it's not erectile dysfunction, erectile dysfunction, erectile dysfunction. You know, just mix things up a little bit, make sure you're not all writing the same sex scene and create some variety. That said I would like to see erectile dysfunction come into play at least once as long as it needs to that sorely neglected thing called foreplay and perhaps some mutual masturbation.
Considering we have several authors working together on their respective stories and collaborating their scripts into producing a consistent collage I am quite sure the keyword
variety is guaranteed here. Realistic portrayal does not necessarily mean repetition - a shift of focus does wonders. Who knows, maybe we will experience some erotic scenes from the perspective of our cherished girls?
I can agree with your second idea - nothing strikes me as weird as the fact that after a blowjob the man is always unaffected in terms of sensory overload in his penis - like some fictional works try to tell us. So, more foreplay (involving the deconstruction of any fear and doubt the two participating parties might have or just showing the mutual affection) would be really appreciated.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:12 pm
by Envy
Deimos wrote:I can agree with your second idea - nothing strikes me as weird as the fact that after a blowjob the man is always unaffected in terms of sensory overload in his penis - like some fictional works try to tell us.
Yes, there is much curious with most H manga and H doujins out there. What with penis size, multiple male orgasms, semen load, inexplicable facials having been cum
inside, rape themes in consensual sex, repetitive and unnecessary "dialogue" and boring line of events that go blowjob > J-J-JAM IT IN > the end.
I know I'm kind of preaching to the choir here but I feel this needs to be explained. Sex is not predictable, it is spontaneous and real sex, good sex, involves plenty of foreplay that doesn't necessarily include oral. Erogenous zones and all that, you'd think we didn't have any going off hentai.
Seriously, Japan. What the fuck? I have, like, two doujins in my massive collection depicting realistic sex and both are P4 Yukiko doujins.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:31 pm
by DuaneMoody
I expect to laugh at least once during the H scenes. Beyond that it's up to the writers how they want to handle it.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:01 pm
by Caesius
Envy wrote:That said I would like to see erectile dysfunction come into play at least once as long as it leads to that sorely neglected thing called foreplay and perhaps some mutual masturbation.
You know what almost all porn and hentai completely neglect?
Kissing.
If it isn't gay or lesbian porn you can bet that the most kissing sex partners will do is maybe 20 seconds or so during a very short foreplay sequence. The second he sticks it in, his penis becomes the only useful part of his body, even when he has dozens of opportunities to kiss her.
Does the porn industry just have an unwritten rule that there is to be no kissing 'cause that would imply that they actually love each other or what?
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:45 pm
by SirMax
Caesius wrote:Envy wrote:That said I would like to see erectile dysfunction come into play at least once as long as it leads to that sorely neglected thing called foreplay and perhaps some mutual masturbation.
You know what almost all porn and hentai completely neglect?
Kissing.
If it isn't gay or lesbian porn you can bet that the most kissing sex partners will do is maybe 20 seconds or so during a very short foreplay sequence. The second he sticks it in, his penis becomes the only useful part of his body, even when he has dozens of opportunities to kiss her.
Does the porn industry just have an unwritten rule that there is to be no kissing 'cause that would imply that they actually love each other or what?
I dunno. A lot of the doujins I read have kissing...
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:53 pm
by bitpeg
Yeah, there's a lot of kissing in comics and standalone pictures.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:58 pm
by Despair Sensei
Caesius wrote:
You know what almost all porn and hentai completely neglect?
Kissing.
If it isn't gay or lesbian porn you can bet that the most kissing sex partners will do is maybe 20 seconds or so during a very short foreplay sequence. The second he sticks it in, his penis becomes the only useful part of his body, even when he has dozens of opportunities to kiss her.
Does the porn industry just have an unwritten rule that there is to be no kissing 'cause that would imply that they actually love each other or what?
The unspoken assumption is that if the person wants just wants to jerk off, they'll find kissing too boring. If they wanted kissing before the sex the reader would get a romance novel. That's the general assumption mind you, whether it's true or not depends on your perspective.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:54 pm
by ubergeneral
Kissing does have a place in KS. Remember KS isn't going to be a crazy Doujin. It is a romance noval so kissing wouldn't really be out of place.
I was thinking. If sex really was supposed to be meaningful why should there be any nudity at all? The point of KS at this point isn't the FAP FAP FAP part so if that is the case why even have nudity? If anything it should really be like in a movie that has sex but for solely advancing the plot.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:13 am
by Caesius
ubergeneral wrote:I was thinking. If sex really was supposed to be meaningful why should there be any nudity at all? The point of KS at this point isn't the FAP FAP FAP part so if that is the case why even have nudity? If anything it should really be like in a movie that has sex but for solely advancing the plot.
'Cause this ain't a movie and they ain't just having sex for the sole purpose of advancing the plot. They're in love, dude. No reason we can't see that just 'cause it's supposed to be tasteful, eh?
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:54 am
by abscess
ubergeneral wrote:I was thinking. If sex really was supposed to be meaningful why should there be any nudity at all? The point of KS at this point isn't the FAP FAP FAP part so if that is the case why even have nudity? If anything it should really be like in a movie that has sex but for solely advancing the plot.
Ok.... this will sound
corny as hell... Alright, here goes nothing:
I think that getting naked in front of the one you love is not just an exposure of the flesh, but an exposure of your
self, to let your partner see you how you really look like and let her/him know that you are okay with showing your bare body to that person. Imperfections and flaws would lack importance if the other one accepts you for what you are. Yes, inner imperfections would be hard to get like that, but showing physical nakedness is just a part of opening oneself.
........ I feel awkward now.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:27 am
by Guest
I hope it's not:
"Hisao, act 1 just ended, fuck me hard"
"HNNG"
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:34 am
by Deimos
abscess wrote:ubergeneral wrote:I was thinking. If sex really was supposed to be meaningful why should there be any nudity at all? The point of KS at this point isn't the FAP FAP FAP part so if that is the case why even have nudity? If anything it should really be like in a movie that has sex but for solely advancing the plot.
Ok.... this will sound
corny as hell... Alright, here goes nothing:
I think that getting naked in front of the one you love is not just an exposure of the flesh, but an exposure of your
self, to let your partner see you how you really look like and let her/him know that you are okay with showing your bare body to that person. Imperfections and flaws would lack importance if the other one accepts you for what you are. Yes, inner imperfections would be hard to get like that, but showing physical nakedness is just a part of opening oneself.
Getting naked in front of your loved one for the first time is an extremely embarassing thing (unless you think very highly of yourself) and a careful approach in this scenario is always advised. We all are at one or another level all superficial especially in the bedroom. Accepting the outer layers of a person is part of any intimacy.
@ubergeneral
No nudity but sex? Sounds like the Catholic church in the middle ages - they had robes for consumating the marriage that just had openings where the genitalia are. Thankfully that never gained widespread use! On another level sex without nudity is even worse because it is solely about
sticking it in and be done with it.
There would be no cherishing of the partners, no stimulating the skin through soft blowing, no feeling of an aroused hitched and hot breath on you, no mutual showerings with kisses, no hickeys, no gentle explorations with your fingers, no squeezing, no tasting of all of your love one, no appreciation of other body parts like white sexy legs, the soft arching of the back, the way how the shoulderblades move when you massage your partner or how your partner reacts to playful tickling.
Your idea would not give me the message like
"You are mine and I am yours!" that complete nudity and gentle foreplay would give me.
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:21 am
by Lawls
Aura wrote:All the kids in Yamaku are neutered when they are admitted so the pregnancy thing is not a concern.
Unless he fucks an older lady
Wouldn't it be spade and neutered (I think spading is for females and neutered is for males)
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:25 am
by Caesius
That's 'spayed'
Re: Are the hentai scenes important
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:08 am
by Pimmy
I think what Ubergeneral was trying to say that, is there a reason to SHOW the nudity, instead of just implying that there's nudity.
Though really the best response I can think of for that is "It's still an erogame"