Re: What scene made you "cry" the most
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:08 pm
When Hanako asked me for the chocolate,(im not good under pressure)
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THIS^SpunkySix wrote:
I honestly found that the graveyard scene, as sad as it was, was also a really touching moment too. Having your guard up all the time hurts. This sweet, tough little girl finally allows herself to open up and let the pain out with somebody she can trust, and the two are finally getting closer because of it. I could almost feel the hug there. And maybe it's weird, but I feel like the warm tears would have been kind of comforting when they dripped down onto my shirt. I saw it less as a bad painful thing and more of a relief painful thing, so to me, the tears were representative of something dark being released, and being a part of that would be really nice.
And then of course there's the scene after, which is probably one of the most genuine, innocent depictions of love-making I've seen in a piece of media. Not that I've really seen a ton, but still, it seemed heartfelt instead of just being a hormone-induced poundfest.
I feel as though the Lilly route has slightly more than a 50:50 chance of working out in the long term. That's just me though.Megumeru wrote:THIS^SpunkySix wrote:
I honestly found that the graveyard scene, as sad as it was, was also a really touching moment too. Having your guard up all the time hurts. This sweet, tough little girl finally allows herself to open up and let the pain out with somebody she can trust, and the two are finally getting closer because of it. I could almost feel the hug there. And maybe it's weird, but I feel like the warm tears would have been kind of comforting when they dripped down onto my shirt. I saw it less as a bad painful thing and more of a relief painful thing, so to me, the tears were representative of something dark being released, and being a part of that would be really nice.
And then of course there's the scene after, which is probably one of the most genuine, innocent depictions of love-making I've seen in a piece of media. Not that I've really seen a ton, but still, it seemed heartfelt instead of just being a hormone-induced poundfest.
I may favor Shizune more than the rest of the female casts, but the scenes that compelled me and strike me most effectively are in Emi's route. It's...beautiful.
If we're talking about long-term relationship/commitment (probably into marriage) to tag along with it, only Emi and Shizune's are viable--with Hanako coming really-really close. Lilly's has about 50:50, and Rin depends on how much Hisao can tolerate it any further (note, all of the KS route only took place up until mid-graduation in high school, not including university-years, with only Shizune's route that touches how both her and Hisao are going together to the same school)
False tho, the end of Lilly's route directly addresses the issue of Lilly and Hisao going to the same school. Hisao wants to become a science teacher and Lilly wants to become an english teacher; Akira brings up something and Lilly goes on about how they'll most likely be going to the same school since they both have high enough marks. Hisao expresses doubt and Lilly reassures him but telling him that he's better than her in both math and science. Something along those lines.Megumeru wrote:THIS^SpunkySix wrote:
I honestly found that the graveyard scene, as sad as it was, was also a really touching moment too. Having your guard up all the time hurts. This sweet, tough little girl finally allows herself to open up and let the pain out with somebody she can trust, and the two are finally getting closer because of it. I could almost feel the hug there. And maybe it's weird, but I feel like the warm tears would have been kind of comforting when they dripped down onto my shirt. I saw it less as a bad painful thing and more of a relief painful thing, so to me, the tears were representative of something dark being released, and being a part of that would be really nice.
And then of course there's the scene after, which is probably one of the most genuine, innocent depictions of love-making I've seen in a piece of media. Not that I've really seen a ton, but still, it seemed heartfelt instead of just being a hormone-induced poundfest.
I may favor Shizune more than the rest of the female casts, but the scenes that compelled me and strike me most effectively are in Emi's route. It's...beautiful.
If we're talking about long-term relationship/commitment (probably into marriage) to tag along with it, only Emi and Shizune's are viable--with Hanako coming really-really close. Lilly's has about 50:50, and Rin depends on how much Hisao can tolerate it any further (note, all of the KS route only took place up until mid-graduation in high school, not including university-years, with only Shizune's route that touches how both her and Hisao are going together to the same school)
I almost felt that it was as sure a thing as Emi's route to be honest. As well as the likelihood of them attending the same university together, Lilly was open with Hisao and not being as closed off as she was earlier on in the route. I felt like they had a strong relationship, one that could definitely last.Zerero wrote:False tho, the end of Lilly's route directly addresses the issue of Lilly and Hisao going to the same school. Hisao wants to become a science teacher and Lilly wants to become an english teacher; Akira brings up something and Lilly goes on about how they'll most likely be going to the same school since they both have high enough marks. Hisao expresses doubt and Lilly reassures him but telling him that he's better than her in both math and science. Something along those lines.Megumeru wrote:THIS^SpunkySix wrote:
I honestly found that the graveyard scene, as sad as it was, was also a really touching moment too. Having your guard up all the time hurts. This sweet, tough little girl finally allows herself to open up and let the pain out with somebody she can trust, and the two are finally getting closer because of it. I could almost feel the hug there. And maybe it's weird, but I feel like the warm tears would have been kind of comforting when they dripped down onto my shirt. I saw it less as a bad painful thing and more of a relief painful thing, so to me, the tears were representative of something dark being released, and being a part of that would be really nice.
And then of course there's the scene after, which is probably one of the most genuine, innocent depictions of love-making I've seen in a piece of media. Not that I've really seen a ton, but still, it seemed heartfelt instead of just being a hormone-induced poundfest.
I may favor Shizune more than the rest of the female casts, but the scenes that compelled me and strike me most effectively are in Emi's route. It's...beautiful.
If we're talking about long-term relationship/commitment (probably into marriage) to tag along with it, only Emi and Shizune's are viable--with Hanako coming really-really close. Lilly's has about 50:50, and Rin depends on how much Hisao can tolerate it any further (note, all of the KS route only took place up until mid-graduation in high school, not including university-years, with only Shizune's route that touches how both her and Hisao are going together to the same school)
I feel like along with the added closure, Lilly's route assures that their relationship has a higher chance than 50:50 of lasting long-term.
Huh, really? I have to reread the epilogue again and comeback to that.Zerero wrote:
False tho, the end of Lilly's route directly addresses the issue of Lilly and Hisao going to the same school. Hisao wants to become a science teacher and Lilly wants to become an english teacher; Akira brings up something and Lilly goes on about how they'll most likely be going to the same school since they both have high enough marks. Hisao expresses doubt and Lilly reassures him but telling him that he's better than her in both math and science. Something along those lines.
I feel like along with the added closure, Lilly's route assures that their relationship has a higher chance than 50:50 of lasting long-term.
Are you sure? Lilly's route ended at the beginning of summer vacation. Summer vacation in Japan is the same as in the United States, but shorter (between 6 and 14 weeks); the transition between school years. I could be off on this, I'm not an expert on Japanese schooling. But I don't think it was the middle of the school year. They took finals and whatnot and Hisao was going to stay with his parents for the duration until yanno... he went after LillyMegumeru wrote:Huh, really? I have to reread the epilogue again and comeback to that.Zerero wrote:
False tho, the end of Lilly's route directly addresses the issue of Lilly and Hisao going to the same school. Hisao wants to become a science teacher and Lilly wants to become an english teacher; Akira brings up something and Lilly goes on about how they'll most likely be going to the same school since they both have high enough marks. Hisao expresses doubt and Lilly reassures him but telling him that he's better than her in both math and science. Something along those lines.
I feel like along with the added closure, Lilly's route assures that their relationship has a higher chance than 50:50 of lasting long-term.
Thing is, her route ended in the middle of a school year (summer, possibly around August) and it is still too far for further confirmation; possibly the shortest timeline-wise of all, alongside Hanako's.
Hanako has a much higher chance than Lilly considering her psyche, (and Hisao has to be such a dick to crush her by breaking her heart for something) followed with the bond they shared that is evidently enforced.
Now, on Lilly's honesty at the end, maybe it's just me but it felt...temporary. It's like...hmm.
How many of you stopped touching yourself for a few days or month after finishing KS then doing it again after?
It feels like that, more or less
I feel like I'd have more commitment if I actually went through the experience. Which isn't to negate what you're saying because I haven't read the route so I don't know for sure, but it seems to me like actually going through everything they did would make the change a lot more permanent than that.Megumeru wrote:How many of you stopped touching yourself for a few days or month after finishing KS then doing it again after?
It feels like that, more or less
That's another good point. I actually completely forgot about that scene (as an aside, also one I caught an extreme case of the feels from). I think I might have to have another playthrough...Liminaut wrote:A few thoughts on life after Lilly's epilogue:
Lilly has some pretty serious abandonment issues (witness how she demands that Hisao stay with her forever) and repression issues (witness how she does this while knowing her family wants her to move to Scotland). Once she's chosen Hisao, especially to the point of being willing to defy her family for him, I think she'd stick to him like superglue. For Hisao's part, throughout the route he's been pretty content to let Lilly take the lead. So I think Lilly and Hisao could stay together for a long time, basically because their neurosis would dovetail nicely.
She's neurotically yours, you might say to Hisao.Liminaut wrote:A few thoughts on life after Lilly's epilogue:
Lilly has some pretty serious abandonment issues (witness how she demands that Hisao stay with her forever) and repression issues (witness how she does this while knowing her family wants her to move to Scotland). Once she's chosen Hisao, especially to the point of being willing to defy her family for him, I think she'd stick to him like superglue. For Hisao's part, throughout the route he's been pretty content to let Lilly take the lead. So I think Lilly and Hisao could stay together for a long time, basically because their neurosis would dovetail nicely.
That's fair enough.Liminaut wrote:A few thoughts on life after Lilly's epilogue:
Lilly has some pretty serious abandonment issues (witness how she demands that Hisao stay with her forever) and repression issues (witness how she does this while knowing her family wants her to move to Scotland). Once she's chosen Hisao, especially to the point of being willing to defy her family for him, I think she'd stick to him like superglue. For Hisao's part, throughout the route he's been pretty content to let Lilly take the lead. So I think Lilly and Hisao could stay together for a long time, basically because their neurosis would dovetail nicely.
That's fair enough.Megumeru wrote:Liminaut wrote:A few thoughts on life after Lilly's epilogue:
Lilly has some pretty serious abandonment issues (witness how she demands that Hisao stay with her forever) and repression issues (witness how she does this while knowing her family wants her to move to Scotland). Once she's chosen Hisao, especially to the point of being willing to defy her family for him, I think she'd stick to him like superglue. For Hisao's part, throughout the route he's been pretty content to let Lilly take the lead. So I think Lilly and Hisao could stay together for a long time, basically because their neurosis would dovetail nicely.
The one difficult thing in analysing multiple-routes VN is the time length as time-skips are littered everywhere (if everything is written day by day, it will be called a 'Katawa Nikki'/Disability Diary instead). So far, the only evident and clear timeline is in Shizune's route, reaching up to Spring of the next year--graduation.SpunkySix wrote:
I was under the impression that it was slightly before Summer vacation, actually. It ends not too long after final exams, and they're still in school after the grave scene, before which only the final scene takes place in Emi's room. It seemed like it was leading into the break, if anything, unless I missed a time skip somehow.