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Guest Poster wrote:

The route heavily implies that it's also the anniversary of the fire, even if it doesn't say it.

Does it? As far as I know, the only time it's suggested is when Hisao's speculating, but he himself acknowledges it's not more than that.

Mahorfeus wrote:He would probably mellow out after leaving Yamaku.

bhtooefr wrote:Hanako wants interaction on her own terms, but that doesn't mean that exclusion can't hurt her - in fact, exclusion 364 days of the year is part of (most of?) why she has such trouble with social interaction.

Liminaut wrote: There may be another aspect to Hanako's birthday depression. She's going to be having survivor's guilt, of course. She may also be thinking that if she was never born, her parents might have escaped the fire.

Munchenhausen wrote:With both mother and father shouting and screaming, Hanako flips her shit and runs upstairs to the 'safety' of her bedroom. Nobody realises she's gone until the whole room in engulfed in flames.

For me it all begins in the streets, sort of. Not a Family princess, me; I’m a cop’s daughter. And my dad, he’s not just a cop, he’s a detective. If people find out, they go, “Hey, you’re like Ibarazaki!” I just smile, my smile that’s hiding bitter and showing funny, and I say, “Naw, that’s not it at all.”

They get all confused and go away. But you know, the Yamaku Foundation is a funny beast. There’s four kindsa people studying there: Family children, cop kids, kids with disabilities, charity kids and such to make up the numbers. It’s not so hard to find people with the same background, except we don’t want to know, and we don’t want to say.

But sometimes, if you’re like Ooe, Inoue or Ikezawa, you have that natural nosiness that lets you see things you wouldn’t normally see. Yeah, I know, Ikezawa’s a saint and so on, but that’s cos she knows and won’t tell. She married what’s-his-face in the end, big win all round, good for her. I’ve always liked her for the fact she keeps secrets well. Did you know who her parents were? Heh, there you go.

Me, I’m Miura’s kid; I’m the one and only daughter of the Nagasaki Fist. Kinda ironic, that. But you’re probably wondering, what’s with all the missing parents in this deal? Now I’m a lot older, it’s easier to tell the truth.

Sometimes, the Families have problems with the older kind of Family. Or with the cops, especially the special units. Things get messy. People die—mysterious fires, drownings, suicides, accidents of all kinds. But all the Families have their idea of honour, and Yamaku is where a bunch of them have decided to park the leftovers, the victims of what they call ‘collateral damage’.

So here’s a secret. The one person who never ever bitched at Hakamichi? Me. I found out her Family, they were the ones who looked after the orphans. And that hard-assed ex-classmate of mine, she’s the best of them now. Gotta give her credit for that.

Valjean Lafitte wrote:

Mahorfeus wrote:He would probably mellow out after leaving Yamaku.

In one of Cpl_crud's fanfics not only did Kenji totally mellow out, he also married Yuuko and had a kid!

https://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-f ... le-part-1/

I know it's not canon, but I like to think that having one of the writers names attached to it makes it at least semi-semi-semi-canon.

Munchenhausen wrote:

Liminaut wrote: There may be another aspect to Hanako's birthday depression. She's going to be having survivor's guilt, of course. She may also be thinking that if she was never born, her parents might have escaped the fire.

What I personally think happened, is that Hanako's parents decided to have a small family-only birthday party before her actual official birthday party. Being as their family is so small, it was literally just Mummy, Daddy and little Hana-chan.

With all the lights turned off for dramatic effect, Papa Ikezawa brings the birthday cake through from the kitchen with the candles lit and sings the traditional Happy Birthday song. In the darkness, he accidentally grazes the cake too close past the curtains and it catches fire. Because it was just one of the candles touched the curtain, it was a pretty small fire... Papa Ikezawa does what he shouldn't have done. He underestimates it and nonchalantly walks into the kitchen to get something to put it out with, laughing about the "Big, Bad House fire" whilst Mama Ikezawa shouts at him for being too laidback with something as dangerous as this.
When he returns, the entire curtain is ablaze and much too large for the tea towel he brought to smother it out with.

Upon realising this, he starts to panic. With both mother and father shouting and screaming, Hanako flips her shit and runs upstairs to the 'safety' of her bedroom. Nobody realises she's gone until the whole room in engulfed in flames.
The rest is history.

To this day, Hanako blames herself for the death of her parents because it was her birthday cake that caused it all.

Liminaut wrote: My personal term is 'apocrypha'.

Valjean Lafitte wrote:

Liminaut wrote: My personal term is 'apocrypha'.

Ah, now that's the word to use!

Someone should collect all the fanfics and apocryphal statements made about KS by 4LS all into one place.

Guest Poster wrote: Except the VN states that the fire broke out when the three of them were asleep. They probably didn't wake up until half the room was already ablaze.

dewelar wrote:a visual novel where all the visuals are indistinct?

KSPuff wrote:Suddenly, he grabbed her by the throat and slammed her into the wall several times while trying to choke her. Thankfully, he was yelling at her in a mad anti-medical rant which alerted my parents to what was happening. My father barely managed to stop him as my mother called police were called and, long story short, is currently spending several years in jail for attempted murder. He could chose to going to mental hospital but he took the jail time instead.

Liminaut wrote:At the orphanage, the nurses there would first make Hanako write invitation cards to all the other children, thanking them for being wonderful friends over the last year. This despite all the children basically bullying Hanako all year. Then during the birthday itself, she would be the center of attention the whole time. That goes over well. Afterwards Hanako was made to write thank-you cards to all the children.

brythain wrote:I think of Hanako as a collateral victim of a hit on her father, who was a white-collar Yakuza professional.

Atario wrote:

KSPuff wrote:Suddenly, he grabbed her by the throat and slammed her into the wall several times while trying to choke her. Thankfully, he was yelling at her in a mad anti-medical rant which alerted my parents to what was happening. My father barely managed to stop him as my mother called police were called and, long story short, is currently spending several years in jail for attempted murder. He could chose to going to mental hospital but he took the jail time instead.

Holy fucking shit, dude.

How does he feel about psychotherapists? Because he needs one.