Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:13 pm
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This, all of this. I'm only 20, but I know how it feels to not be able to get out of the comfort zone. And how it feels to have grown up with a tight budget. Hell, that's really the only reason I moved to a new city, and so far it's been quite a challenge. Back in my hometown, I felt completely stuck. I had the same routine every single day, and that was it. It got so bad that I had contemplated suicide more than once. I never acted on it, but it wasn't an uncommon thought in my head. I knew there were other things I'd enjoy. It just seemed like there was absolutely no way for me to ever reach them. And even if I could, I was scared of trying them and making a fool out of myself. But that's the wrong way to look at it, and it took me up until now to get that. You can't be worried about the "What if's", for people like us in the club, "What if's" are fatal. They're a wall that we make to keep the bad stuff out. It's like locking yourself inside, you'll be safe as there's always the possibility of being stabbed, run over, etc outside. But you'll never get to see the beauty of the world from the inside. And that's exactly what I did for years and years, until I realized that the only way to save myself is to break down the door and run out into the world. Sure, there will be some mishaps. I may very well get stabbed or run over. Or burned. Or shot. Or bullied. Or crippled. Or all of the above. BUT, I'm not going to think about that. Don't think, do. "Kick reason to the curb and go beyond the impossible!" as the great Kamina once said. Words to live by. Even seeing as how you've had you're military career cut short, I'm sure that there is something that you can do out there that you would enjoy, even with the state your knee and thumb are in. It's just a matter of throwing yourself at things. Eventually, you'll find something you like.Taku wrote: After playing the game, I ended up to this forum and found this thread. Now after flipping trough the pages and reading some of your stories, I find myself in a position to give something back... (but I'm not much of a writer so bear with me)
So yeah. I'm almost 22 years old, have finally managed to get a stable workplace and live with a "friend"... But it just doesn't feel right.
Back when I was born in the 90's Finland was going trough a rather big financial depression and from what I know my parents weren't exactly at the best financial state by the time I came to be. And three years later my little brother was born, not making the life any easier for my parents.I also have an older brother who's from my mothers previous relationship. (found out about this a around a year ago) But as I was the middle child in my family I never really got that much attention and mostly just stayed by myself either watching the TV, playing or building something from legos...
As I grew older and entered elementary school I never really got any true friends... You know the ones that you can share everything with. Sure there were some that you might call as a friend but after going to high school pretty much most of them were left behind and later lost contact with. Only one of them got into the same class as me in high school, but just like the others I lost contact to him after the high school... During the uneventful and meaningless days of high school I found out that I had Coeliac disease. As a young kid I kinda pushed it aside until I finally realized that this is going to be with me for the rest of my life. Back then it was quite devastating when I found out that I couldn't enjoy the same candies, bread or any other food that everyone else takes for granted. Ever since that I just couldn't even blend into the crowd as I always needed a special diet. Sometimes I got teased for having something different to eat but I mainly just tried to ignore it as best as I could.
After high school I ended up studying to be a carpenter, which seemed like the most interesting choice at that time. But after few years my enthusiasm dried up and I just ended up sailing trough just hoping to get at least decent grades on my graduation diploma. 2007 I had an accident at school where I managed to cut off my right hand thumb. At first I really didn't realize what was going on but after being hospitalized for two months it dawned to me that this is yet another scar that will follow me trough the rest of my life. Sure the doctors worked wonders and managed to attach the cut off piece back to where it belongs, but it still haunts me every single day.
For the most of my childhood I had dreamed of being part of the military but even that was taken away from me after my right knee decided to give up under the constant strain and wear. Life in the army was already hard enough with my special diet and my thumb not really being able to handle winter conditions, but the knee was the final seal that ended that dream altogether. And any friendships that I managed to build during my time there, were left behind as I walked out of the gates for one last time.
These days pretty much my schedule just consists of sleeping, working or sitting in front of the computer either playing or watching different television series. I just can't push myself enough to try anything new in my life. I've always been a shy person that usually just stays to himself just so I could avoid any embarrassing situation that would make me feel uncomfortable. I've always wanted to be someones knight in shining armor, but it's just impossible as I pretty much never leave my house and mostly shy away from any kind of social interactions.
I have to agree with the others on this one. I've been in this situation, still am sometimes, with my room-mate/best friend. She's the type who will let you know when something's wrong... eventually. But not when it's happening. Now, when I first met her I made a promise to myself that I'd always be around to help her. She was the type of person who acted tough, but would go home and cry herself to sleep. I found out about this when I came over to visit her one night when we were still in high school, and she was bawling her eyes out. I was shocked, as she'd always seemed so confident at school. It was heart-wrenching. Ever since then I've always done my best to be there for her. BUT, there were times in the past where I was the "white knight", and that really only made things worse. She hated that, understandably. So lately, I've left her alone. Every now and then, when I see that worried look on her face, I give a gentle reminder that I'm always around if she wants to talk. And honestly, that's worked wonders. Just be there for your friend, that's the best thing you can do. Be someone she can always count on. Don't go overboard with it, but just make it known to her that you care about her problems and that you'll be there for her whenever she feels like talking about them. It'll make her feel better, I know it.Aili wrote:I, uhm, kinda need help with something.
I have a friend/classmate of mine who is like Emi...well, a lot. She has legs and she doesn't like running, but her attitude is exactly the same.
She doesn't let people in, ever. I've known her for 8 years now, and she has never told me anything about her issues. She doesn't tell me what's wrong but somehow expects me to do something about it. And whenever I try to tell her that it bothers me, she just shrugs and ignores me 'til I get over it and have the patience for her again.
I just don't know what to do, it's been a long time and she doesn't let me in...ever...Is there something I've been doing wrong all along? I'm there for her when she needs me, I give her advice...
She's kinda manipulative, she clearly knows how to get what she wants. Ever since her father left her family for another woman, this only got worse. I don't know what to do but to be there for her, but that doesn't seem to work at all.
What should I do? I'm afraid that when she transfers to another school next year, she won't have somebody with my patience at her side, and people will get mad at her, leaving her lonely and pretty much making all her advance useless.
Thank you, that means a lot! Though I am by no means anywhere's close to "fixed", I still have many days where I feel swallowed up by depression. But I've come to terms with this, and after embracing everything that's happened, I've been feeling quite a bit better. I'll never be 100% better, but honestly, I don't think I'd want to be. I'd lose what makes me, me.Walrusfella wrote:Redbullet612, thanks for sharing your story. I feel privileged for having read it.
I don't post much in this thread because what problems/issues I have are either sorted out, permanent, or small beer compared to others on here. I do read almost everything, however. It seems like you know yourself very well and are on your way to a better frame of mind. Good luck meeting some people in your new city; there are lots of good people out there who'd want you for a friend.
I know that Beoran and I were in an IRC channel, but it was pretty much only us, with a few other people occasionally joining in for a little bit. I'm not sure if the channel is still alive, but the channel is #hanakosbrokenheartclubRedbullet612 wrote:On another note, this club is amazing. I wish it would be even bigger than it is now, as this thread is something that is making a difference for people. I hope it never, ever dies! Has anything been done as far as IRC or Facebook pages or anything for this group? I'd join in a heartbeat! Hell, I'd make 'em if they don't exist already.
Ouch, dude, I feel ya on that one. I'm kind of in the same boat myself. Suits me just fine, as I really didn't want the pointless degree I was half-assing anyway, but it sucks letting everyone down, most of all my/yourself.yummines wrote:well, i just missed one of my midterms yesterday. I need to get a B in all my classes in order to stay in college.
so much for that.
i would tell a friend in school but i don't have any friends in college so... what should i do now that i know i'm pretty much screwed? honestly i didn't even like going to school and didn't want to continue school, but even if i want to i really don't have a choice anymore.
the worst part is that i'm going to have to tell my parents when i do get a bad grade, and honestly i don't know how they're going to take it. i myself thought i could somehow manage to do well in this semester. i guess not.
i know it's my fault. that doesn't help any though.
I think that the sooner you get it over with, the better. I knew I was failing at least one of my classes about halfway through the semester with no chance of passing (only a few assignments, missed 2). I didn't tell my parents, and I was going crazy trying to figure out how they would take it. I was surprised, since I wasn't in any trouble at all. My parents just said that I should not go to college until I figure out what I want to do. Now I'm looking for jobs, hoping for some not-as-stressful-as-my-last-job stuff. And preferably something that I won't have to interact with the customers.yummines wrote:the worst part is that i'm going to have to tell my parents when i do get a bad grade, and honestly i don't know how they're going to take it. i myself thought i could somehow manage to do well in this semester. i guess not.
While walls of text can be daunting, I'm fine with them. Just say what you need to say, and take as long as you need to say it. I'm still going to read it.Alexbond45 wrote:Also, There was a massive wall of text the page behind, I'm working on it, But try to paraphrase if possible. Heh.
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. I can understand how you feel to a degree, I've always been the guy at every one of my jobs that my manager's manager wanted to cut lose because I was a waste of money (I actually overheard one of these conversations. Nothing like knowing that the company you've worked years for thinks you're trash..) Though I did everything I was supposed to do and more in every one of them. Funny thing is, all of my managers and co-workers, after getting to know me a little over time, wanted me to stay and would push to keep me on. Even now, my District Manager hates my guts (learned that from my room-mate, who's an assistant manager. Such a confidence boost.) and never even says hello to me or acknowledges me when he visits my store but chats up a storm to everyone else. So I can relate somewhat. That's the problem with acting, as good as you can get at it, eventually people will see enough of the real you through the cracks to change their opinion of you. And management never gets an opinion of you anyway, your just a name on a list. Plus, most jobs out there seem to suck, especially for folks like us. If I could only snag a nice, quiet job with a decent pay, where one does there own job at their own pace, I would be in heaven. Maybe a library would be good, pay wouldn't be the best, but it sounds like it'd be peaceful.Beoran wrote:Redbullet612, thanks for your story.
Perhaps it would be an idea to talk with your parents about your feelings? They may have had bad luck in life, but they do really seem to care for you a lot. Perhaps they too would feel better if you were to talk to them about the past.
I also have a small story to add: recently, I suddenly lost my job. I'll get a nice severance fee so I'm OK for at least half a year, and I'll probably find a new job in time. But damn, after working at the same place for so many years, you'd think they'd have the decency to, you know, *talk* with me before making such decision. Which they didn't. And that's the essence of the capitalist system for you: everyone is just treated as a thing, your work is seen as a good to trade, and everyone is just a number on the balance sheet. No one is really seen or treated as a human being. So forgive me if I am a bit angry and upset right now.
Sure, I should have been more careful and tried to play the social game smarter. Or to be more precise, I should have put more effort in just being social and talking to everyone, and make sure people got to know me. And I didn't do that much. No matter how hard or skillful I worked, I guess my bosses didn't know who I was or what I was doing, and then it's easy to seem "superfluous" when there are some financial difficulties. I needed to keep proving my relevance and I failed to do so. I'll keep that in mind for my next job. But still, I'd hoped to get some respect. Apparently, nowadays, that's too much to ask or even hope for in many jobs. So color me miffed.
I wasn't very active here during the last few days because I'm currently slacking off playing Persona 4. In a sense, it's ironic to play a game that emphasizes social interactions while playing al day long, but I guess this game is very relevant for me right now.
Which brings me back to Redbullet's story. I think I know a bit how you feel being a salesman: you gotta be a bit of an actor to play the parts we have to play in daily life. I refused to do that and got bitten by it. Unfortunately, because of the way in which we humans have organized the social structure of society, it's not possible to always show to other people the feelings we have inside. Even if the system of society is alienating, it's not going to change overnight. We have to deal with it in a smarter way. So it's not possible to be completely open all the time. But the roles we have to play in daily life, they are also a part of who we are. Personality, and the self is dynamic and if we can't adjust the situation to ourselves, then we have to adjust ourselves to the situation.
Edit: Alexbond45, thanks for worrying about me. I think this post will explain a bit more about my absence here.
Exbando: yes, there is that IRC channel but it never got off the ground well, did it? If other people are interested too we might give it another spin, but for now I think the audience may be to small...
I found this part really interesting, and I'm glad that you have been able to turn things around to the point where you try to help others who are where you were. I can't say I'm at that point yet, I'm still a bit to weary of people, to say the least, so I rarely get close enough to anyone to be able to help them. But it's very noble of you, and it's something that ends up helping everyone, both you and whoever you reach out to, since the more you help them sort out their problems, the more you'll sort out your own. If only everyone could do that easily, the world would probably be a little bit brighter. But, social anxiety tends to make such things pretty damn difficult... -_-BionicKraken wrote:My biggest personal obstacles mostly involved overcoming my own anxiety. I'm not sure if it stemmed from any particular incident; I probably just missed out on a lot of typical childhood things. The process of breaking down my own walls and overcoming my issues took most of those four years. Though I met a few people with whom I talked to during class, it wasn't until my junior year that I found a good friend to hang out with outside of school. It was a certain friend moving across the country, however, that really made me push myself out of my own shell. As he was my opposite in that regard -- bold, very social, loud and so forth -- I would often rely on him in social situations where I didn't know what to do. If he was there to spur on conversation and be the center of things, it was much easier for me to relax. With him gone, though, I wanted to sort of take his place; to make myself louder and more social after his departure. I never reached his crazy level for the last year and a half before I graduated, but it certainly helped me a lot. I'm still a quiet person in a lot of ways, but I'm pretty much wholly comfortable with myself, and I usually try to reach out to people in whom I recognize some of my former traits.