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Re: Ask!
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:38 am
by Aura
I think those are all correct, except Takashi (between kagami and delta) is climatic's representation. The person between yujovi and SC can't be VCR though. Maybe it's Mike Inel? Only weee knows.
ArcCain wrote:
Wow, nice. :)
Hmm, is this based on real life or is it just made for fun?
Some of them approximate some real physical characteristics, most don't.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:51 pm
by TheHivemind
Aura wrote:I think those are all correct, except Takashi (between kagami and delta) is climatic's representation. The person between yujovi and SC can't be VCR though. Maybe it's Mike Inel? Only weee knows.
ArcCain wrote:
Wow, nice.
Hmm, is this based on real life or is it just made for fun?
Some of them approximate some real physical characteristics, most don't.
The real me has way more facial hair, for example. No beard freaks me out a little.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:28 pm
by Eurobeatjester
Suriko -
Did you release the "Miki route" on your own, or did you have input from the other staff members leading up to what you just posted in the fanfic section?
I'm curious as to what made you decide to first write, and release it
Love of the characters, something to do, a way to do more writing, or to finally shut all the Suzu and Miki fans up?
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:36 pm
by Silentcook
This staff member's still all
about that, just for the record.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:37 pm
by Eurobeatjester
The reason I ask is because while rough, it's definitely thought out and seems to indicate that Suzu and Miki were at least being considered for routes. I was wondering how much of it was from old concepts and ideas and how much was fleshed out recently for this release
Re: Ask!
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:26 am
by TheHivemind
Eurobeatjester wrote:The reason I ask is because while rough, it's definitely thought out and seems to indicate that Suzu and Miki were at least being considered for routes. I was wondering how much of it was from old concepts and ideas and how much was fleshed out recently for this release
We've mentioned this before, I think, but we did consider routs for Suzu, Miki, and yes, even poor Misha at one point. For various reasons we decided to stick to the girls in Raita's original drawing. As fun as Miki's route is (Suzu or GTFO, by the way, who gives a shit about Miki banging Hisao?), I think we made the right decision.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:53 am
by Suriko
Eurobeatjester wrote:Suriko -
Did you release the "Miki route" on your own, or did you have input from the other staff members leading up to what you just posted in the fanfic section?
I'm curious as to what made you decide to first write, and release it
Love of the characters, something to do, a way to do more writing, or to finally shut all the Suzu and Miki fans up?
Let's just say I'm pretty sure silentcook's going to run after me with a hammer if/when he reads it. I wrote the thing over four months with no external input and only brief time to proofread before my deadline.
With development of s̶̵͜e̵̢̨͘͠c҉͟r҉̴͘͠è̵̛́̀t̡̢̢̕͠ ̕͜͠p͠͝͡r҉͠ơ͘j̴̵͠e̡̛͡͞c̸̴͏͝t̛́҉ ̨҉̵̷L̵̢̡͢͏ ̴͟͟͏t̸̵̨́h̸̴͢a̶̢͘͡t̨͢͞͡҉ ̶̡̕w͜͠͝o͝҉͟n̶̵̢̕'҉͏̷̧̨t́́́̕͞ ̶̶͞͝b̶̸͝҉é͘͝ ͠҉̛m̡͠e̵̢͝ń̡́͜͞t̛͝į́҉ó̸ǹ̵̡́͘e҉̶͟d͏͘͝ ̡͘̕͠h̶͡e͘͡ŗ̷̸͟҉e̴͘͟ taking a while, I decided to try and practice a faster and scheduled approach to writing, and using Miki for it killed two birds with one stone. Her old scenario had been floating in the back of my mind for a while, so this largely put it to rest (or smothered it with a pillow, either way). So basically the first three.
TheHivemind wrote:Eurobeatjester wrote:The reason I ask is because while rough, it's definitely thought out and seems to indicate that Suzu and Miki were at least being considered for routes. I was wondering how much of it was from old concepts and ideas and how much was fleshed out recently for this release
We've mentioned this before, I think, but we did consider routs for Suzu, Miki, and yes, even poor Misha at one point. For various reasons we decided to stick to the girls in Raita's original drawing. As fun as Miki's route is (Suzu or GTFO, by the way, who gives a shit about Miki banging Hisao?), I think we made the right decision.
No route for Suzu was ever considered - literally the only thing "official" about her was the appearance in the classroom pic, and that image on the shimmie saying she had narcolepsy.
Miki was only considered in a fairly unserious way (though that didn't stop me making a scenario plan back then for something to do), as there was never going to be the art to pull it off. It was actually a series of mistakes that lead to her even getting sprites in the first place.
Misha was purely up to A22 who never seemed to have much desire for it. I don't think it was the wrong decision at all in any case; sticking to the original girls made sense for a huge number of reasons.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:10 am
by SpunkySix
Nobody seems to have asked this yet, so I'll jump on it while it's fresh:
Why'd you write from Miki's perspective? I like it, it's just surprising since nothing else was written from anybody's perspective other than Hisao's.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:07 pm
by minimike96
I did some poking around and couldn't find anything so:
Is there a Official/UnOfficial transcript of the game?
Re: Ask!
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:56 pm
by Aura
No.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:01 pm
by Aura
SpunkySix wrote:Nobody seems to have asked this yet, so I'll jump on it while it's fresh:
Why'd you write from Miki's perspective? I like it, it's just surprising since nothing else was written from anybody's perspective other than Hisao's.
Just pointing out that you're wrong: all of us wrote things in other perspectives than Hisao's. You can find some old things in the fanfic forum. It was fun to change things up and/or it helped develop characters.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:57 pm
by SpunkySix
Aura wrote:SpunkySix wrote:Nobody seems to have asked this yet, so I'll jump on it while it's fresh:
Why'd you write from Miki's perspective? I like it, it's just surprising since nothing else was written from anybody's perspective other than Hisao's.
Just pointing out that you're wrong: all of us wrote things in other perspectives than Hisao's. You can find some old things in the fanfic forum. It was fun to change things up and/or it helped develop characters.
Okay. I guess I meant more the route itself being fully from somebody else's perspective, as in, when you choose any of the five girls' routes, you still see Hisao's thoughts and not theirs. I suppose this was just a case of writing to develop Miki in a new way?
Re: Ask!
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:01 am
by ParagonTerminus
Suriko:
I've been reading Summer's Clover alongside an older Suzu fanfic by a gentleman by the name of Scissorlips, and I've noticed something interesting: Scissor's interpretation of Suzu seems to be a polar opposite to your interpretation.
In his story, she doesn't have cataplexy; in yours, she does. In his story, she's a shy but reasonably extroverted and playful person; in yours, she's totally introverted and mechanical. On and on and on.
Was this intentionally done or is it just a big coincidence?
Re: Ask!
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:11 am
by cpl_crud
ArcCain wrote:
Wow, nice.
Hmm, is this based on real life or is it just made for fun?
I would like to say a representation, but I have my stupidly expensive headphones on whilst I am downloading photos from my camera.
These are pretty much my only defining points OTL
Re: Ask!
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:16 am
by cpl_crud
Aura wrote:The names were decided before 4LS and were some of the first actual decisions made for the project because priorities. It really wasn't any more or less difficult than any other decision, even with more people talking about them with somewhat less coordination. The deaf girls' name was initially Rosa, which was changed maybe a few months later. Humorously, the biggest proponent for "Rosa" came back months and months later, after 4LS was already formed, to fight us about the name again.
When the cast expanded with side characters, they were mostly named by single 4LS devs, maybe with some consultation. The philosophy with naming them ranged from pretty laissez-faire (which resulted in some stupid shit that still makes me cringe) to obsessive (similar to the trench warfare about Shizune's name), depending on who was involved.
I know this is going back a few answers, but "Iwanako" is a bastardisation of a girl that I had a crush on at the beginning of KS (she was Polish), and I used "Misha" because I watched "Hannibal Rising" at about that time.
Also "Yamaku" is an inside joke from a (failed) attempt at translating the Higurashi Visual Novels, where our translator mis-read "Yamainu" as "Yamaku". Since Yamaku was going to be on a mountain ("yama" meaning mountain) and me being a massive Higurashi fanboy, that is how that was chosen. That was very much in the "democracy be damned!" phase of development.