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I did, but it was more an exercise in trying to write an unsexy sex scene than something I would've liked to actually put in KS.

Since we're airing dirty laundry about the H-scenes:

Lilly and Hanako had a really badly written yuri daydream scene, part of which can be found on the development blog.
Lilly jumping Hisao's bones in the shower was planned and written, but cut. 2mny sex scenes.
The oral sex thing was between Emi path and Shizune path (Lilly path never had oral planned). As with the previous scene, it was written for Shizune path but cut.
Related to the above: I originally planned a light bondage scene with Hisao's hands tied, and A22 had vague ideas of a blindfold scene. We switched. The light bondage scene (where Hisao's on the chair) in the final Shizune path was originally oral sex, before it got changed to what it is now.
I wrote the blindfold scene expecting people to rage at having a written H-scene with no CG. Whelp.
The anal sex scene in Emi path took some debate to get in. By which I mean every writer dogpiling Hive into doing it.

Suriko wrote:The oral sex thing was between Emi path and Shizune path (Lilly path never had oral planned). As with the previous scene, it was written for Shizune path but cut..

You must be misremembering this one. I'm pretty sure all three routes had one planned at one point or another (since I can plainly see evidence of it in dev files)

I didn't say anything about bad. By unsexy I mean not titillating. Other people who've read the text might comment on whether they thought it was good or bad, but I personally thought I did a pretty good job.

Suriko wrote:Since we're airing dirty laundry about the H-scenes:

The oral sex thing was between Emi path and Shizune path (Lilly path never had oral planned). As with the previous scene, it was written for Shizune path but cut.

It was Shizune? Man, I got that completely wrong. My memory is worse than I thought it was (trauma, no doubt, from being forced to write the anal scene).

300BillionDegrees wrote:Glad it all worked out the way it did. One of the things that made KS much more real and immersive to me was that the sex was pretty much awkward clumsy teenage sex rather than supposedly inexperienced teens suddenly doing stuff that would make porn stars blush.

That's actually why I don't like the Shizune H-scene. How many teenagers lose their virginity during bondage play?

Anyway...getting off the sex scene subject, who was in charge of music placement? I've read that much of the soundtrack was written early on, so did individual writers write scenes with certain songs in mind (and specify where they should be used in the script), or was that something Delta handled?

It was done mostly by delta and Raide. There was a ruleset to how the tracks are used and it was just a matter of finding good places for cues and figuring out fades and silences and such.

At least I didn't think about any specific music while writing. Except for release candidate testing, I even playtested KS on mute from 2009 or so onwards because the sound was distracting to me.

The club scene in Hanako's path was somewhat interesting as far as music goes. I worked with Nicol in the leadup to and during the writing of the scene, and the art was also done simultaneously. The result of the collaboration on all three fronts paid off really well, as the scene's still one of my favourites in KS as far as atmosphere goes (and Red Velvet's one of Nicol's best KS tracks, I think).

Aside from that very particular example, I didn't really write with music in mind (aside from the music box, which ended up having a development story all its own).

Ah, so you mean Red Velvet was actually written with Hanako's club scene in mind rather than the dinner date with Lilly? Interesting. It seems more people associate it with the latter.

Do you remember which scene was written first? For some reason I've always assumed that the principal writing for Lilly was finished before you took over the reigns of writing Hanako.

Valjean Lafitte wrote:Ah, so you mean Red Velvet was actually written with Hanako's club scene in mind rather than the dinner date with Lilly? Interesting. It seems more people associate it with the latter.

Do you remember which scene was written first? For some reason I've always assumed that the principal writing for Lilly was finished before you took over the reigns of writing Hanako.

You assume correctly.

Suriko wrote:Since we're airing dirty laundry about the H-scenes:

Lilly and Hanako had a really badly written yuri daydream scene, part of which can be found on the development blog.
Lilly jumping Hisao's bones in the shower was planned and written, but cut. 2mny sex scenes.
The oral sex thing was between Emi path and Shizune path (Lilly path never had oral planned). As with the previous scene, it was written for Shizune path but cut.
Related to the above: I originally planned a light bondage scene with Hisao's hands tied, and A22 had vague ideas of a blindfold scene. We switched. The light bondage scene (where Hisao's on the chair) in the final Shizune path was originally oral sex, before it got changed to what it is now.
I wrote the blindfold scene expecting people to rage at having a written H-scene with no CG. Whelp.
The anal sex scene in Emi path took some debate to get in. By which I mean every writer dogpiling Hive into doing it.

Is there any chance that the scenes that were written but cut could be released? I'm interested not just for the obvious reasons, but as an author and going through the files that shall not be named it's fascinating to see the creative process unfold from concept to the finished product.

No. They were cut for a reason. Plus it would actually require a degree of effort to resurrect them, unless the writers held on to their personal copies. Spoilers, like goggles, do nothing. >:(

And learning from mistakes mostly really works only if they're mistakes you personally make.

There's been a small resurgence of interest in Molly Kapur lately (at least on the KS subreddit there has) and I was wondering if any of the writers can remember deciding anything about that character other than that she is Indian and has prosthetic legs? For a character that never speaks there is a decent amount of art of her on the Mishimmie, going back to when the novel was still in development (weee in particular seems fond of her). Is there anything else to know about Molly, and did she ever have any parts in any scenes, written or planned? I don't expect there is/was, but nonetheless, thank you in advance for your answer.

Molly is not a KS character and so wasn't intended or even allowed to have any scenes or anything. She's from another 4LS project that never materialized, the artists just included her in the background of a few KS scenes as an inside joke. Also, she's Pakistani iirc.

Thanks for the quick answer! I didn't know that she was originally created for another project. Cool.

Aura wrote:. Also, she's Pakistani iirc.

Are you sure? Everyone is under the impression she is Indian, because, well..a lot of the information us fans have on the "background characters" of 3-3 seems to have originated from this image, uploaded by Suriko four years ago. Sure it mentions Lelouch Lameperouge, but otherwise most of the info that the Katawa Shoujo Wiki has on 3-3 comes from that image, and its probably been used as a quick fact-check for God knows how many fanfics. Generally speaking, it's taken for granted to be accurate.

If her ethnicity was changed to Pakistani/was never Indian to begin with, you may have just cast doubt on the only source document we have for info on most of these background characters (I think).