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Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:51 am
by pandaphil
Sea wrote:
Indeed, my heart broke more on Hanako's good ending than bad. This game has a way of making you reasses things.
I confess I 'm kinda curious. How did you find her good ending heartbreaking?

Well, apart from the obvious, "I wish it was me she fell for." :)

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:16 am
by Sea
pandaphil wrote:
Sea wrote:
Indeed, my heart broke more on Hanako's good ending than bad. This game has a way of making you reasses things.
I confess I 'm kinda curious. How did you find her good ending heartbreaking?

Well, apart from the obvious, "I wish it was me she fell for." :)
The whole scene in the park, where Hanako breaks down and goes into massive self-angst mode and reveals that you took advantage of her a bit and then falls down and cries, (it's a phenomenal picture, but really sad) pulls up more emotions then an outburst of anger and a slammed door for me.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:51 pm
by Xanatos
Sea wrote:
pandaphil wrote:
Sea wrote:
Indeed, my heart broke more on Hanako's good ending than bad. This game has a way of making you reasses things.
I confess I 'm kinda curious. How did you find her good ending heartbreaking?

Well, apart from the obvious, "I wish it was me she fell for." :)
The whole scene in the park, where Hanako breaks down and goes into massive self-angst mode and reveals that you took advantage of her a bit and then falls down and cries, (it's a phenomenal picture, but really sad) pulls up more emotions then an outburst of anger and a slammed door for me.
How was she taken advantage of?

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:29 pm
by pandaphil
Sea wrote:

The whole scene in the park, where Hanako breaks down and goes into massive self-angst mode and reveals that you took advantage of her a bit and then falls down and cries, (it's a phenomenal picture, but really sad) pulls up more emotions then an outburst of anger and a slammed door for me.
Oh careful man. You've just hit upon one of the biggest debating point between new and old players. Who took advantage of who. :)


Ahh, I see where you're coming from with the park scene. You're right of course. Thankfully it quickly resolves itself and ends with Hanako's gift. The single sweetest moment in the game as far as I'm concerned.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:36 pm
by Sea
pandaphil wrote:
Sea wrote:

The whole scene in the park, where Hanako breaks down and goes into massive self-angst mode and reveals that you took advantage of her a bit and then falls down and cries, (it's a phenomenal picture, but really sad) pulls up more emotions then an outburst of anger and a slammed door for me.
Oh careful man. You've just hit upon one of the biggest debating point between new and old players. Who took advantage of who. :)


Ahh, I see where you're coming from with the park scene. You're right of course. Thankfully it quickly resolves itself and ends with Hanako's gift. The single sweetest moment in the game as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I wasn't quite sure about that bit, seems like a touchy topic in general. I'm just gonna say it was more awkward than Anything and forget about it, still I maintain there is more f
eels in the happy ending then the bad.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:38 pm
by pandaphil
Sea wrote: Yeah, I wasn't quite sure about that bit, seems like a touchy topic in general. I'm just gonna say it was more awkward than Anything and forget about it, still I maintain there is more feels in the happy ending then the bad.
Well, its not really a touchy topic, but it has been discussed nearly to death. I think the general consensus is that they were both insecure, and both share the blame for not communicating and going in for the wrong reasons. But thankfully it all worked out in the end.

And yeah, Hanako kneeling on the ground crying breaks my heart every time. Honestly in her bad ending I'm more angry at Hisao for misreadign her feelings and being insensitive than I am sad about what happened. The worst part is her dumping on Lilly too.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:22 pm
by YZQ
I always have 2 differing followups of the kneeling scene in my mind.

1) A Prince Charming extends his hand.
2) Something malevolent (like the Millennium Earl from D.Grayman) doing the above.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:01 am
by Stratos
Well, just completed Hanako good ending, is touchy, but I need to replay the last part from the sex scene to the end in order to understand it better. Hanako path is far more complicated than Emi one as Hanako is quite different and even Hisao acts far more insecure. Once I replay that part again I think I will take a break, need some fresh air in order to understand better Shizune, Rin and Lily paths.

BTW, is only me that feels Rin is a very interesting character?

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:20 pm
by Sea
Stratos wrote:Well, just completed Hanako good ending, is touchy, but I need to replay the last part from the sex scene to the end in order to understand it better. Hanako path is far more complicated than Emi one as Hanako is quite different and even Hisao acts far more insecure.
I did replay the last 5 min or so a good 5 times before I fully under stood. The first left me sad, but as I looked deeper, I realized that this was the happy end, and it helped me get over my feels, then I did the bad one and in a moment I was sucked back in.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:09 pm
by MegaMoto
Sea wrote:
Stratos wrote:Well, just completed Hanako good ending, is touchy, but I need to replay the last part from the sex scene to the end in order to understand it better. Hanako path is far more complicated than Emi one as Hanako is quite different and even Hisao acts far more insecure.
I did replay the last 5 min or so a good 5 times before I fully under stood. The first left me sad, but as I looked deeper, I realized that this was the happy end, and it helped me get over my feels, then I did the bad one and in a moment I was sucked back in.
Just when you think your our, it pulls you back in.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:29 pm
by Loonie
Stratos wrote:BTW, is only me that feels Rin is a very interesting character?
If you genuinely feel that way about Rin, a word of advice: Save her path for last. It should be the best sendoff ever.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:32 pm
by Xanatos
Stratos wrote:BTW, is only me that feels Rin is a very interesting character?
Far from it, actually. :lol: She's either interesting or boring.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:37 am
by Loonie
Xanatos wrote:
Stratos wrote:BTW, is only me that feels Rin is a very interesting character?
Far from it, actually. :lol: She's either interesting or boring.
That's the reason why I always say: Whatever order you want to do the paths, please do not do Rin path first. Not just because of what a timesink her path is, but because it varies from person to person as to what they think of her after only a few glances and far from everyone thinks of her as 'interesting'. But if someone does come up with that thought about her - definitely save her path for last.

TBH though I'd say this rationale could apply to almost every girl. If you plan on going through all the paths in this VN, and start to find a girl moreso interesting than others in Act 1, save the best path for last as they say.

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:14 pm
by Firewind
I still have to play the manly picnic, Shizune's path and Rin's path, so I guess the last one's going to be Rin. :wink:

Re: This game is great!

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:08 pm
by Xanatos
Firewind wrote:I still have to play the manly picnic, Shizune's path and Rin's path, so I guess the last one's going to be Rin. :wink:
I'd say Shizune's is best for last, just on account of it ending on graduation. Rin's is a good one too...As long as you're prepared for that particular rollercoaster. :lol: