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Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:35 pm
by Xanatos
Helbereth wrote:I kinda see the characters that contribute little to the story as being the ones I don't like seeing.
Misha is grating, but she actually carries a lot of weight in the tale (and no that's not a fat joke, she's pleasantly curvy).
Yuuko has her moments of zen in the story, and she serves as great comic relief during tense moments - much like Kenji.
Nomiya, thankfully, is only seen in Rin's route, but he contributes heavily to the outcome of the story - indirectly and directly. Sae is similarly cast, but she does have her moments.
Jigoro and Hideaki actually help describe a lot of Shizune's thought process, indirectly, and while they're both jarring, they aren't acting out of character. Jigoro's berating of Hisao is easily fatherly concern masquerading as belligerent antagonism, and Hideaki's oddities set up some of the more telling moments where Shizune is concerned.
Akira flows in and out of a few of the stories, and does a lot to make Hisao think every time she appears. Her contributions actually end up being much more subtle than her candor indicates.
However, some characters feel like throw-aways. The antique shop keeper, Miki, Mrs Ibarazaki (in Rin's route), and, in most routes, Nurse (in all but Emi's route), end up contributing so little to the proceedings that they could have been left out with only minor changes to the dialogue.
Nurse contributes plenty to the proceedings, indirectly. The game's setting is a school for disabled people and such a place would logically employ a medic. Not having one would make the setting less detailed and thus less believable, which would damage the story's ability to immerse the player. It's the same reason Yuuko and Mutou are around, despite being unnecessary. Without a detailed setting, we've got nowhere for the proceedings to even begin. And if they threw away the antique guy, Hanako wouldn't get any presents.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:15 am
by Nobody in Particular
For me it would be Yuuko and Hanako. Most of the scenes involving Yuuko seemed to be the exact same thing, Yuuko worries about some stupid shit and then Hisao will start talking to her over something unrelated and then she goes back to worrying. I warmed up to her near the end but for most of the VN I didn't like the scenes where she appeared. Hanako was fine in Lilly's and her own routes, but she was incredibly boring in all the other ones, and again all the scenes about her would revolve around her worrying over stupid shit or just being shy in general. I think I just despise characters that worry or panic about nothing.
Why do so many people hate Jigoro and Kenji? They were the two funniest characters in the VN.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:35 am
by Potato
Nobody in Particular wrote:Why do so many people hate Jigoro and Kenji? They were the two funniest characters in the VN.
Because Jigoro is an asshole and Kenji's paranoid rambling gets annoying when people just want to get on with their day.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:56 pm
by Zezin
I don't like Kenji much either. But he is really funny at times.
I really do not like Rin though. I get annoyed whenever she shows up. It was my least favorite arc.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:24 am
by ArazelEternal
Kenji and Jigoro. They both have real issues they need to work through.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:28 am
by ArazelEternal
Xanatos wrote:And if they threw away the antique guy, Hanako wouldn't get any presents.
That would only be true in her own arc. In Lilly's arc, Lilly gets her a present from another store. She never went with Hisao, Hidaeki did. By the time he left the antique shop with the doll, Lilly already had the teddy bear for her when he got back to her. (I think thats what it was, correct me if I am wrong)
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:21 pm
by WorldlyWiseman
'Hate' is a strong word. but I don't find Kenji as funny as people make him out to be.
Jigoro's quotes out-of-context are hilarious. Experiencing Jigoro in-game makes me more sad than upset.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:09 pm
by andivegito
Nomiya. I mean he is such a douche character that it hurts just to look at him, If I could I'd reach right throw the screen and
rip is damned throat our or something. Worst character ever.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:32 pm
by Pyramid Head
txalolrn9 wrote:I can't believe people would hate/hate seeing Kenji or Jigoro
HAND IN YOUR MAN CARDS
also, the only 100% agreed upon character should be NOMIYA
If being male somehow obligates me to like a deluded piece of shit that makes Glen Beck look sober or a megalomaniac in an ugly shirt with a fake tan, than give me a skirt, set me on fire and legally change my name to Hanako.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:28 pm
by ShadeHaven
Pyramid Head wrote:txalolrn9 wrote:I can't believe people would hate/hate seeing Kenji or Jigoro
HAND IN YOUR MAN CARDS
also, the only 100% agreed upon character should be NOMIYA
If being male somehow obligates me to like a deluded piece of shit that makes Glen Beck look sober or a megalomaniac in an ugly shirt with a fake tan, than give me a skirt, set me on fire and legally change my name to Hanako.
Don't forget to relinquish all social skills and cooking abilities.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:48 pm
by Pyramid Head
ShadeHaven wrote:
Don't forget to relinquish all social skills and cooking abilities.
Okay the first one made sense, but why would i need to relinquish cooking skills? We only have Lilly's word for it that Hanako is a bad cook, and she's shown later on to know close to fuck all about her friend. Besides, i said you could set me on fire after i have a spontaneous gender change because apparently thinking Kenji should be beaten to death with a pipe wrench does something to my man cards, when did i agree to altering my knowledge or personality?
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:36 pm
by Guest Poster
Hanako's not a bad cook. She just likes to experiment and sometimes that doesn't go well, but painting her as a lethal chef is somewhat of a flanderisation.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:02 pm
by ShadeHaven
While my comment may have been a bit exaggerated, it can be inferred that she isn't the best cook around from some of the text. Furthermore, one doesn't need to know a person personality wise to know how well that person can cook, although I do see your point.
I think I'd rather just dye my hair blue and not talk. Much less painful, and I've already got the glasses for it.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:25 pm
by Axelownz
Honestly it was Kenji for me. Not that i really hated Kenji but when he would show up i was just like ,"Ugh, let me get back to the girls!". Also personality wise he is a worse version of a person i know in real life, and i do not get along with him already.....also this person is legally blind too which made the Kenji comparisons even more accurate.
Re: Is There Any Character That You Really Hate Seeing?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:19 pm
by Nekken
Kenji and Jigoro, but I always kind of figured that you're supposed to hate seeing Kenji and Jigoro. Especially Jigoro.