Re: Gamefaq's KS Critique
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:55 pm
Even if it's a bad review, it's still media attention - and not the usual negative "omg it is about fucking crippled girls, what's wrong with the world" shit.
You, Woman, have never played a visual novel before. Ever.Simply put, this game's story is a mess. This is inexcusable in a game like this, which is basically just supposed to be a big choose-your-own-adventure with pretty pictures. There is no overarching plot beyond the protagonist being put into a school for the disabled for heart problems. There is no big villain or problem to struggle against. There is no plot after the intro until you get into a girl's route. Most of the routes have extremely generic endings, with no denouement that makes any sort of sense or anything that tells you about what happens in the future.
No true ending? OFCOURSE NOT! Life has no true ending. You speak of generic, well, if all you say about generic is true then true endings are as generic as they come, almost every visual novel and it's spinoffs have true endings, I'd say that's pretty generic.There is no true ending with an actual plot or resolution for the protagonist himself. There's no reason to care whether the protagonist ends up with anyone, because he might as well have been anyone else.
There is no motivation given for the protagonist to do anything besides hanging out with the heroines and earning their love/friendship.
The only thing I can say is that you must REALLY hate reality. I have never seen more human characters in a media medium ever before and I highly doubt ever after. Their humanity is almost palpatable. Their emotions, their fears, their dreams and wishes and hates. All of it feels too real to be a fabrication and on some level it isn't. You complain of them being over the top well isn't life quite over the top? Arn't people capable of some really crazy things and thoughts? And writing based on disablity? Perhaps if you were baser and very oblique perhaps but to claim that to an intelligent individual is, to a great extent, insulting. It insults the very core of my person and the meaning of katawa Shoujo to say something like that. You think Emi is happy-go-lucky and unstoppable because she has no legs? Do you think Shizune is so forceful and Forward because she'd deaf and mute? I can feel just from reading THIS STORY that if it were any other way they would still be the same. As it's been said before the most basic premise behind Katawa Shoujo is that it's about The beautiful Girls who just happen to have disablities, not Disabled girls who are Beautiful inside and out.Katawa Shoujo has ridiculous characters. They are over the top. This wouldn't be bad if it wasn't extremely obvious that the writers wrote them based around their disabilities, instead of writing characters and deciding how they would deal with a disability afterward. Granted, this isn't entirely the writers' faults since they based the entire game around some doujin concept art, but it's still a glaring fault.
Now, they are over the top, like I said, yes, but they somehow still manage to be very generic! The writers have watched too much bad high school anime without realizing that they have to put their fandoms aside to write anything other than ridiculous cliches. The shy girl, and the pushy student council president both come to mind as I write this.
How dare you foist your inane want for voices into a review and count that as a not only a valid point but an integral one. You ask for voices and throw a fit when there are none? Childish beyond all reason, the other kid has an apple so why can't I have one? Childish beyond words.Almost all modern eroge are fully voiced. Got that? Let me repeat it. Almost all modern eroge are fully voiced. And voiced well. What's your excuse, 4-Leaf? You were obviously able to get at least a somewhat professional team of artists together. We aren't in the past anymore, and we've come a long way past the likes of True Love.
You say yourself that the music is not bad, and that the game could have benifitted from a wider selection of music, perhaps that is true perhaps not, then I can assume you are not bashing the music completely? That means the the 1/10 score is almost ALL DUE TO LACK OF VOICE ACTING!?Putting that aside, the music in this game is not memorable. It's not necessarily bad, but there is not one track that I could whistle or hum now, and it's only been about a week since I last loaded up the game. This is especially bad, because...
There is NOT ENOUGH MUSIC in the game. Really now. The game could definitely have benefited from a wider selection of tracks, so you wouldn't have to hear the same thing more often.
It's not about the less than 9 score review, it's more that this particular review is just bad and very biased. it does have points but they are garbled and buried underneath garbage and the way the reviewers scores is completely unproportionate to her points. I would be fine with 1/10 score she gave if it was her points were valid and conclusive.Snow_Storm wrote:Can't tell which is more epic: The Skyward Sword 7.5 incident or this.
So, ifoyu give a game a score lower than 9, your opinion is shit and you're a bad person, huh?
no, but giving Characters 1/10 and saying that "the writers wrote them based around their disabilities, instead of writing characters and deciding how they would deal with a disability afterward" means your opinion is shit and you're a bad person.Snow_Storm wrote:Can't tell which is more epic: The Skyward Sword 7.5 incident or this.
So, ifoyu give a game a score lower than 9, your opinion is shit and you're a bad person, huh?
Snow_Storm wrote:Oh. But girls don't play vidyas!
Anyway, I just wanna know, is her low score gonna affect your love for the game? Not everyone is gonna like the game.
They don't have to have been trolling for over a year, although there are users there who have been doing so for far longer. It's the only review they're done, or at least linked to that account, so it would just be a one-off trolling contribution from a normally quiet user, in response to the unusual popularity. Doesn't quite make the writer a troll, but doesn't mean the review was a balanced, decent opinion either. High-scoring reviews aren't necessarily well-written of course, so no reason to get too carried away with the occasional low score.Nekken wrote:I don't think she's a troll. Given the way GameFAQs tracks its users she must have been on for at least a year, and that's a little impractical to waste on a troll account.
I just think she has bad taste: having been caught up in contemporary video game marketing hype, she places far too much store in gimmicks and focuses less on the things that actually make a game good. Great for the game makers, not so good for the games.
Very much this.Smoky wrote:People have different standards. Some will love it, some will like it, others will dislike it and the rest will hate it.
That's it.
Either way it's not about your reasons, it's about how you put them.Snow_Storm wrote:Somebody explain this logic to me:
You guys wanted a non-biased review of KS and you got one with a 2/10 review but an endless sea of 9/10 and 10/10 reviews isn't biased and most of those reviews are basically jerking off the game and saying "OMG IT'S KATAWA SHOUJO!" OMG IT'S A TOUCHING VISUAL NOVEL! 10/10 VISUAL NOVEL OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS!".
I love Katawa Shoujo myself but I ain't gonna treat it like it's bigger than Jesus Christ or something and I ain't gonna harass or attack anyone who give the game a score lower than a 9/10.