Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:30 pm
I don't care if idle chitchat threads get derailed, so carry on.
?:3delta wrote:I don't care if idle chitchat threads get derailed, so carry on.
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Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:35 pm
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:54 pm
Yeah, will agree with you there. Can't let this forum turn into 4chan, can we? I used to moderate on another forum before and I know how much of a headache that can be sometimes.delta wrote:lol, are you serious? Posting on these forums is a privilege, not a right.
Cool. Sorry about comparing you to Snacks, lol.delta wrote:I don't care if idle chitchat threads get derailed, so carry on.
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:08 pm
I'm guessing "Has anyone really been so far decided as to use [English] this way to see how it would look?" You make a good point that more complex sentences will be harder to parse if things aren't inflected in them and there's some jumbling, which gets exasperated if there are a lot of verbs in a row. However, simpler sentences usually work out just fine, and even longer complex ones might be ok.Caesius wrote:Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?Linear B wrote:As for the grammar, English doesn't have a lot of inflection (stuff like declensions, gender, plurals, tense, ...) and has very regular systems for plurals and tense, so you can hack together a bunch of words and as long as they're in close to the right order you should be understood.
However, I think you might be confusing inflection with syntax, which is how words are ordered in a sentence. Inflection is, to quote wikipedia since it says it so nicely, "the way language handles grammatical relations and relational categories such as tense, mood, voice, aspect, person, number, gender, [and] case". Here's an example to point out the difference:
Stripped of all inflection:To
The Inhabitants of SPACE IN GENERAL
And H. C. IN PARTICULAR
This Work is Dedicated
By a Humble Native of Flatland
In the Hope that
Even as he was Initiated into the Mysteries
Of THREE Dimensions
Having been previously conversant
With ONLY TWO
So the Citizens of that Celestial Region
May aspire yet higher and higher
To the Secrets of FOUR FIVE OR EVEN SIX Dimensions
Thereby contributing
To the Enlargement of THE IMAGINATION
And the possible Development
Of that most rare and excellent Gift of MODESTY
Among the Superior Races
Of SOLID HUMANITY
You can see English doesn't really have that much inflection.To
The Inhabitant of SPACE IN GENERAL
And H. C. IN PARTICULAR
This Work be Dedicate
By a Humble Native of Flatland
In the Hope that
Even as he be Initiate into the Mystery
Of THREE Dimension
Be previously conversant
With ONLY TWO
So the Citizen of that Celestial Region
Aspire yet more high and more high
To the Secret of FOUR FIVE OR EVEN SIX Dimension
Thereby contribute
To the Enlargement of THE IMAGINATION
And the possible Development
Of that most rare and excellent Gift of MODESTY
Among the Superior Race
Of SOLID HUMANITY
With word order changed from Verb-Object-Agent (VOS; there might be a few kinks, but it should be basically correct):
Now it's really changed, and much harder to parse right off the bat. English speakers can deal with limited changes to word order, though, as evidenced by...Is Dedicated
By a Humble Native of Flatland
To
The Inhabitants of SPACE IN GENERAL
And H. C. IN PARTICULAR
This Work
In the Hope that
Even as was Initiated into the Mysteries
Of THREE Dimensions he
Having been previously conversant
With ONLY TWO
So may aspire yet higher and higher
To the Secrets of FOUR FIVE OR EVEN SIX Dimensions
Thereby contributing
To the Enlargement of THE IMAGINATION
And the possible Development
Of that most rare and excellent Gift of MODESTY
Among the Superior Races
Of SOLID HUMANITY
The Citizens of that Celestial Region
...which is OSV. However, the default is SVO, and deviating from it will make things weird. English is also a "head initial" language, where verbs and nouns are at the front of noun and verb phrases, as in, respectively "Truck of doom" and "Killed messily and painfully".To
The Inhabitants of SPACE IN GENERAL
And H. C. IN PARTICULAR
This Work is Dedicated
By a Humble Native of Flatland
[/derail]
Anyway, Hisao's name sure is ironic, ain't it?
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:53 pm
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:08 pm
I need to brush up on my 4chan lore more often. Weirdly enough, after seeing that I think I can sorta parse/translate it it: "Has anyone even really been so far decided to use [dynamic sort shadows?] even go " want to do [a] look more like [this screenshot]"? Still gloriously WTF, though.(Can mods rename threads? If so, can we get an appropriate/funny thread title change?)
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:14 pm
Linear B wrote:
Sub-culture; remember that.
But, don't worry, they rarely make visitors the main course in this forum.
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:16 pm
Wow! Just, wow! I lol'ed for a straight minute reading that.
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:18 am
i lol'd...Shizune's name means "quiet sound"
Re: Hisao's name is ironic?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:08 am
I think you might be confusing inflection with syntax.