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Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:25 pm
by Aura
ArcCain wrote:
Suriko wrote:I have zero interest in writing a Japanese high school story ever again.
A few of the writers has said the same thing, care to elaborate on it? Why would you not want to write about Japanese high school story´s?
Mostly it's just that too much of the same thing makes it boring as hell. The high school setting is insanely overused in Japanese pop fiction, there's not much room to explore it in interesting ways. It also puts constrains the story in ways I don't like (or you have to break out of them with really stupid bullshit).

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:27 pm
by Aura
Woody Alien wrote:When helping Rin paint the mural in Act 1, Hisao mentions reading a book about some people drinking beer and doing little else. What kind of book is that?
It was a throwaway reference to a book I was reading at the time or recently finished, much like crud's Life of Pi or some other novels Hisao reads throughout KS. I didn't name the book because it's not actually translated to Japanese, and it remains a fun "easter egg" for industrious readers to figure out what book I mean. Nobody so far has gotten it right.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:34 pm
by Aura
muliebrity wrote:Were any of you fans of Raita's work before you started working on the game, or had you not heard of him before that image was posted on 4-chan?
While I wasn't really a fan of his, RAITA was not unknown to me, probably not for many others either. At the time he was most famous for his peculiar way of drawing girls, in the west especially for an erotic Azumanga Daioh doujin he did and his penchant for really great military and mechanical design.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:37 pm
by Aura
Raziel wrote:ASL?
In other words,
If you don't mind me asking, where are you guys from (IRL)
Hivemind is in Chicago ( saw it in his tumblr )
http://thehivemindwrites.tumblr.com/
I'm Finnish.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:41 pm
by Aura
Raziel wrote:Describe Rin's path of thought,
I think of my own more like a big ball of wobbly wobbly thinking... thing..

Does rin have aspergers? Some ppl speculate so...
Image
People speculate on a lot of things.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:48 pm
by TheHivemind
Aura wrote:
ArcCain wrote:
Suriko wrote:I have zero interest in writing a Japanese high school story ever again.
A few of the writers has said the same thing, care to elaborate on it? Why would you not want to write about Japanese high school story´s?
Mostly it's just that too much of the same thing makes it boring as hell. The high school setting is insanely overused in Japanese pop fiction, there's not much room to explore it in interesting ways. It also puts constrains the story in ways I don't like (or you have to break out of them with really stupid bullshit).
Elaborating further:
Because the setting has been done into the ground. Because high school is actually really fucking boring. Because the idea that high school is THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE is fucking dumb. Because there are literally thousands of other ideas out there that are more interesting.

Because I do not really care that much about Japanese culture. Because the only reason KS was even set in a Japanese high school is 'cause five years ago that is what got a bunch of chucklefucks on /a/ to agree to make a game together and by the time we realized what a boring goddamn setting it is we were too late.
muliebrity wrote:Were any of you fans of Raita's work before you started working on the game, or had you not heard of him before that image was posted on 4-chan?
I didn't know who he was. I still don't really know his work beyond that one page.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:05 pm
by Tang
Was it a reference to I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell?

Were there times during the development of KS where you could just sit back and look at the (slow) progress, and say "Wow" because you could suddenly see it coming together?

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:12 pm
by Helbereth
TheHivemind wrote: Elaborating further:
Because the setting has been done into the ground. Because high school is actually really fucking boring. Because the idea that high school is THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE is fucking dumb. Because there are literally thousands of other ideas out there that are more interesting.

Because I do not really care that much about Japanese culture. Because the only reason KS was even set in a Japanese high school is 'cause five years ago that is what got a bunch of chucklefucks on /a/ to agree to make a game together and by the time we realized what a boring goddamn setting it is we were too late.
The same can probably be said for any story setting you've already used extensively. With all this in mind though, if you had the chance to direct the story into another location, I'm curious about where would you have set KS if not at a Japanese High School.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:27 pm
by muliebrity
Helbereth wrote:With all this in mind though, if you had the chance to direct the story into another location, I'm curious about where would you have set KS if not at a Japanese High School.
My thoughts exactly. I thought it was set in a high school because that was the concept in the first place.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:31 pm
by Raziel
I think i accidentally on rin , is that bad?

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:43 pm
by Shockproof Jamo
Aura wrote:
Woody Alien wrote:When helping Rin paint the mural in Act 1, Hisao mentions reading a book about some people drinking beer and doing little else. What kind of book is that?
It was a throwaway reference to a book I was reading at the time or recently finished, much like crud's Life of Pi or some other novels Hisao reads throughout KS. I didn't name the book because it's not actually translated to Japanese, and it remains a fun "easter egg" for industrious readers to figure out what book I mean. Nobody so far has gotten it right.
Juoppohullun päiväkirja? :?:

Re: Ask!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:44 pm
by Raziel
re-doing this since it came out wrong the first time ,
How does rin lack a Pubic hair but Emi has some? I think it should be the other way around...

Re: Ask!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:09 am
by Suriko
muliebrity wrote:Were any of you fans of Raita's work before you started working on the game, or had you not heard of him before that image was posted on 4-chan?
I followed his work beforehand. His mechanical designs are quite interesting, to my mind moreso than his girls. I'm a big Valkyria Chronicles game fan, too, and have a couple of his artbooks for it IRL.
Helbereth wrote:
TheHivemind wrote: Elaborating further:
Because the setting has been done into the ground. Because high school is actually really fucking boring. Because the idea that high school is THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE is fucking dumb. Because there are literally thousands of other ideas out there that are more interesting.

Because I do not really care that much about Japanese culture. Because the only reason KS was even set in a Japanese high school is 'cause five years ago that is what got a bunch of chucklefucks on /a/ to agree to make a game together and by the time we realized what a boring goddamn setting it is we were too late.
The same can probably be said for any story setting you've already used extensively. With all this in mind though, if you had the chance to direct the story into another location, I'm curious about where would you have set KS if not at a Japanese High School.
1930sish Russian orphanage or boarding school. Probably not the most uplifting tale as one could imagine.

Japanese high school gets special mention as it really is a plague on the visual novel medium. It's difficult to think of another media so entirely gripped by a single setting, excepting very rare AAA releases or independents.
Raziel wrote:ASL?
In other words,
If you don't mind me asking, where are you guys from (IRL)
Hivemind is in Chicago ( saw it in his tumblr )
http://thehivemindwrites.tumblr.com/
I'm Australian.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:21 am
by marian11
Hello people.

Yesterday I finished Hanako's route and it was really awesome.

Now I want to do Lilly's route, but do I have to start the game from the very beginning to get to her route ?

Thanks in advance :)

Re: Ask!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:23 am
by A Forum Member
How come Aura has godlike english skills when he/she is not a native english speaker? And why does Aura posts five times in a row instead of citing multiple people in one post?