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Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:39 am
by bhtooefr
Actually, Lilly is older, and if Rin isn't (a day) older, then KS falls afoul of Australian child porn laws, so she's older too.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:43 am
by Munchenhausen
You know what could potentially beat Saki's heart-wrenching romance?
What if there was a girl who had Anterograde Amnesia?

Like, Hisao'd see her In the art room, painting or some shit and start conversation with her, but the next day she didn't recognise him. Hisao watches her paint the same picture, day after day, and each time she thinks she's painting it for the first time. He begins to fall for her, despite having to introduce himself every day.
Also she has a diary, inspired by Clive Wearing's, wherein every morning she writes that she's finally woken up and, with slight confusion/paranoia, that the previous entries weren't written by her.

Fuck me, I've made myself sad.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:45 am
by bhtooefr

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:48 am
by Munchenhausen
Oh.


:oops:

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:04 am
by FelOnyx
bhtooefr wrote:Actually, Lilly is older, and if Rin isn't (a day) older, then KS falls afoul of Australian child porn laws, so she's older too.
Rule #1 of games with ero content: All characters are over 18, even if it doesn't make any sense (I'm looking at you, F/S N)

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:49 am
by CoffeeDrive
FelOnyx wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Actually, Lilly is older, and if Rin isn't (a day) older, then KS falls afoul of Australian child porn laws, so she's older too.
Rule #1 of games with ero content: All characters are over 18, even if it doesn't make any sense (I'm looking at you, F/S N)
Illyas age makes sense, it may not be a good sense, but it does. She's a homuncoli developed to be the grail and as such has no need for secondary sexual characteristics. Therefore, never grows past 12, even though she is 18.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:15 pm
by FelOnyx
CoffeeDrive wrote:
FelOnyx wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Actually, Lilly is older, and if Rin isn't (a day) older, then KS falls afoul of Australian child porn laws, so she's older too.
Rule #1 of games with ero content: All characters are over 18, even if it doesn't make any sense (I'm looking at you, F/S N)
Illyas age makes sense, it may not be a good sense, but it does. She's a homunculus developed to be the grail and as such has no need for secondary sexual characteristics. Therefore, never grows past 12, even though she is 18.
I know about Illya, but I think I read somewhere that the protagonists were 18, despite being in their first or second years of high school. It might have been wrong, or I might be remembering incorrectly.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:30 pm
by SpunkySix
CoffeeDrive wrote:
FelOnyx wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Actually, Lilly is older, and if Rin isn't (a day) older, then KS falls afoul of Australian child porn laws, so she's older too.
Rule #1 of games with ero content: All characters are over 18, even if it doesn't make any sense (I'm looking at you, F/S N)
Illyas age makes sense, it may not be a good sense, but it does. She's a homuncoli developed to be the grail and as such has no need for secondary sexual characteristics. Therefore, never grows past 12, even though she is 18.
She looks and isn't developed past 12, but it isn't pedophilia because she's actually 18 DONE!!

I just have the mental image of a writer being incredibly proud of coming up with that and fist pumping to celebrate, then writing up a sex scene immediately afterwards.

And yeah, I got ya AiC. That might have sounded harsh, but I was totally joking. My brief return to the route for the bad end was intense.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:13 pm
by FelOnyx
SpunkySix wrote:
CoffeeDrive wrote:
FelOnyx wrote: Rule #1 of games with ero content: All characters are over 18, even if it doesn't make any sense (I'm looking at you, F/S N)
Illyas age makes sense, it may not be a good sense, but it does. She's a homuncoli developed to be the grail and as such has no need for secondary sexual characteristics. Therefore, never grows past 12, even though she is 18.
She looks and isn't developed past 12, but it isn't pedophilia because she's actually 18 DONE!!

I just have the mental image of a writer being incredibly proud of coming up with that and fist pumping to celebrate, then writing up a sex scene immediately afterwards.
Illya doesn't have a sex scene, is the thing. Her age is for entirely plot-relevant and tragic reasons.

She did have a planned route, but it was scrapped. So the age thing may not have been completely innocent

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:41 pm
by AaronIsCrunchy
Munchenhausen wrote:
YZQ wrote:Well, it comes with the "naturally young look" she has. being twelve years old
Fixed ;)
WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME MUNCH :'(

And don't worry about it Spunky, I didn't read it as being harsh so it was more a reflection on my poor response :P (That and I think I'd just woke up...)

FelOnyx, I can only presume that was in Fate/Zero or something? I'm not sure how they'd have implemented it in Fate/Stay Night, but then that may have been why they axed it.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:43 pm
by Charmant
Munchenhausen wrote:You know what could potentially beat Saki's heart-wrenching romance?
What if there was a girl who had Anterograde Amnesia?

Like, Hisao'd see her In the art room, painting or some shit and start conversation with her, but the next day she didn't recognise him. Hisao watches her paint the same picture, day after day, and each time she thinks she's painting it for the first time. He begins to fall for her, despite having to introduce himself every day.
Also she has a diary, inspired by Clive Wearing's, wherein every morning she writes that she's finally woken up and, with slight confusion/paranoia, that the previous entries weren't written by her.

Fuck me, I've made myself sad.
You just described an Adam Sandler movie.

Except the movie didn't make me sad.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:01 pm
by FelOnyx
AaronIsCrunchy wrote: FelOnyx, I can only presume that was in Fate/Zero or something? I'm not sure how they'd have implemented it in Fate/Stay Night, but then that may have been why they axed it.
It has nothing to do with Fate/Zero. Early in Stay/Night's development, Illya was planned as being one of four heroines, and her story would have diverged during Heaven's Feel on the 9th day, but it was cut due to length concerns, with parts of it folded into Heaven's Feel.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:09 pm
by Steinherz
Illya is older than 18.
Fate/Zero confirms she's in her mid 20s :lol:
FelOnyx wrote:
AaronIsCrunchy wrote: FelOnyx, I can only presume that was in Fate/Zero or something? I'm not sure how they'd have implemented it in Fate/Stay Night, but then that may have been why they axed it.
It has nothing to do with Fate/Zero. Early in Stay/Night's development, Illya was planned as being one of four heroines, and her story would have diverged during Heaven's Feel on the 9th day, but it was cut due to length concerns, with parts of it folded into Heaven's Feel.
Also, despite the route being cut they also had a bad end where Illya rapes Shirou that was cut fairly late.

Also, you think Fate/Stay Night is bad?
Meet Mayo from Majikoi
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And she has a sub-route in the VN

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:42 pm
by AaronIsCrunchy
FelOnyx wrote:
AaronIsCrunchy wrote: FelOnyx, I can only presume that was in Fate/Zero or something? I'm not sure how they'd have implemented it in Fate/Stay Night, but then that may have been why they axed it.
It has nothing to do with Fate/Zero. Early in Stay/Night's development, Illya was planned as being one of four heroines, and her story would have diverged during Heaven's Feel on the 9th day, but it was cut due to length concerns, with parts of it folded into Heaven's Feel.
Haha, I actually have no experience with Fate/Zero which is why I asked :P That said, that's kinda interesting - length concerns I think is a good enough reason, but it would have been a nice idea had they gone through with it. Her relationship with Shirou interests me anyway.

Re: Random KS Discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:03 am
by BMFJack
bhtooefr wrote:Actually, Lilly is older
Are you trying to say that Lilly is older than Emi?

Also uh... random "KS" discussion...