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Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:14 am
by KeiichiO
Zarys wrote:
KeiichiO wrote:
Zarys wrote:Okay, I will avoid this word. the LGBTQ label is very confusing. :?
What's the 'Q' stand for? 'Quadrosexual'? :lol:
The Q isn't for Queer ?
I guess so, though, it really superfluous to put it in the title, since how it's used today, it means the exact same thing as 'gay'.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:55 am
by Xolf
Not really - 'gay' basically means 'homosexual', while 'queer' embraces a whole lot of other alternatives; to quote Wikipedia, "The range of what queer includes varies. In addition to referring to LGBT-identifying people, it can also encompass: pansexual, pomosexual,[9] intersex, genderqueer, asexual and autosexual people, as well as gender normative heterosexuals whose sexual orientations or activities place them outside the heterosexual-defined mainstream, e.g., BDSM practitioners, or polyamorous persons."

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:59 am
by KeiichiO
Xolf wrote:Not really - 'gay' basically means 'homosexual', while 'queer' embraces a whole lot of other alternatives; to quote Wikipedia, "The range of what queer includes varies. In addition to referring to LGBT-identifying people, it can also encompass: pansexual, pomosexual,[9] intersex, genderqueer, asexual and autosexual people, as well as gender normative heterosexuals whose sexual orientations or activities place them outside the heterosexual-defined mainstream, e.g., BDSM practitioners, or polyamorous persons."
Your average ignorant jerk doesn't care about multiple definitions. To them, 'queer' is just another way to label a person of homosexual orientation, usually in a negative manner.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:31 am
by SpunkySix
KeiichiO wrote:
Xolf wrote:Not really - 'gay' basically means 'homosexual', while 'queer' embraces a whole lot of other alternatives; to quote Wikipedia, "The range of what queer includes varies. In addition to referring to LGBT-identifying people, it can also encompass: pansexual, pomosexual,[9] intersex, genderqueer, asexual and autosexual people, as well as gender normative heterosexuals whose sexual orientations or activities place them outside the heterosexual-defined mainstream, e.g., BDSM practitioners, or polyamorous persons."
Your average ignorant jerk doesn't care about multiple definitions. To them, 'queer' is just another way to label a person of homosexual orientation, usually in a negative manner.
Yeah. It's hard when words have nuances because so many people don't care and butcher the language anyways.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:14 pm
by TK8305
I'm a straight guy KS fan! Whee....

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:35 pm
by Notguest
I've also seen Q stand for Questioning.
I'm a straight guy KS fan! Whee....
Congrats on being in one of the categories the poll creator thought of.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:42 am
by Comrade
SpunkySix wrote:
KeiichiO wrote:
Xolf wrote:Not really - 'gay' basically means 'homosexual', while 'queer' embraces a whole lot of other alternatives; to quote Wikipedia, "The range of what queer includes varies. In addition to referring to LGBT-identifying people, it can also encompass: pansexual, pomosexual,[9] intersex, genderqueer, asexual and autosexual people, as well as gender normative heterosexuals whose sexual orientations or activities place them outside the heterosexual-defined mainstream, e.g., BDSM practitioners, or polyamorous persons."
Your average ignorant jerk doesn't care about multiple definitions. To them, 'queer' is just another way to label a person of homosexual orientation, usually in a negative manner.
Yeah. It's hard when words have nuances because so many people don't care and butcher the language anyways.
That's how languages work, and it has nothing to do with people not caring or being jerks. Deal with it.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:12 am
by Zarys
Notguest wrote:I've also seen Q stand for Questioning.
OKKAAAYY, I thought Q was for queer and queer meant "all those who consider themselves neither men nor women" :oops:

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:03 am
by Broomhead
Zarys wrote: OKKAAAYY, I thought Q was for queer and queer meant "all those who consider themselves neither men nor women" :oops:
Welcome to the English language, where the definitions are made up and grammar only makes sense when you spend an extra eight years studying it.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:07 pm
by metalangel
One of the organizations I was spending time with says LGBTTIQQ2S, lesbian gay bisexual transgendered transsexual intersex queer questioning and two-spirited.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:54 pm
by CoffeeDrive
metalangel wrote: queer questioning and two-spirited.
The reasons why I hate humanity.
"Im both male and female!!1!1!!!1!"
-Said by Bisexuals who just cant accept the fact they arnt really that special.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:13 pm
by FelOnyx
CoffeeDrive wrote:
metalangel wrote: queer questioning and two-spirited.
The reasons why I hate humanity.
"Im both male and female!!1!1!!!1!"
-Said by Bisexuals who just cant accept the fact they arnt really that special.
Please don't start with that, dude. Even if they are making it up (they aren't) how does it affect your life enough for you to even need to mention it, let alone 'hate humanity' over it.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:29 pm
by CoffeeDrive
FelOnyx wrote:
CoffeeDrive wrote:
metalangel wrote: queer questioning and two-spirited.
The reasons why I hate humanity.
"Im both male and female!!1!1!!!1!"
-Said by Bisexuals who just cant accept the fact they arnt really that special.
Please don't start with that, dude. Even if they are making it up (they aren't) how does it affect your life enough for you to even need to mention it, let alone 'hate humanity' over it.
Mainly because im a tradationalist in the sense of gender, im fine with male,female, trans and intersex perfectly, but anything more defined than that I think is just a strange thing to define. A dude that likes chicks and dicks but sometimes acts girly isnt "Two-Spirited" hes a dude that likes chicks and dicks that sometimes acts girly. Putting these dumbass definitions on everyone is awful.

However my main issue is a large number of people who claim to be "Two-Spirited" or "Trigender" are attention whoring tumblr users who have nothing better than create problems and triggers for themselves to cover up the fact they suffer from special snowflake syndrome.


On the OP's topic though, Im a straight male.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:33 pm
by SpunkySix
Tumblr is awful for every cause it "supports" because it gets ridiculous publicity, then people think that everybody supporting that cause is as stupid as the extremist morons that go there and post certain things. It basically trivializes all of its causes and acts as a gross straw man version of them. At least 4Chan is open about its idiocy.

Re: What gender are most KS fans?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:02 pm
by FelOnyx
SpunkySix wrote:Tumblr is awful for every cause it "supports" because it gets ridiculous publicity, then people think that everybody supporting that cause is as stupid as the extremist morons that go there and post certain things. It basically trivializes all of its causes and acts as a gross straw man version of them. At least 4Chan is open about its idiocy.
I wouldn't say Tumblr is terrible, because most of it is just weird porn and fandom crap with a side of anything you can possibly make a blog for and a dash of 2 am weird comments. But the 'social justice' part which everyone thinks of when you say Tumblr, I will agree is mostly terrible, though there are some people there with totally reasonable, non-strawman, not crazy ideas.