Re: If you witnessed someone bullying Hanako...
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:25 pm
pandaphil wrote:I really wish everyone would stop arguing.
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pandaphil wrote:I really wish everyone would stop arguing.
He's already been dealt with. It was universally agreed that my method was best.pandaphil wrote:I really wish everyone would stop arguing. We need to get back to dealing with that asshole who's bothering Hanako.
No kidding. We take pride in this place being a nice haven for people who love KS. This sort of petty crap shouldn't be happening here!Dream wrote:I agree that there's probably not much point in continuing the discussion, but i would just like to say that it's really sad that someone felt so hurt by something that happened here that they're not going to return to this forum and will probably keep very unpleasant memories of the place.
And yeah, we already owned the bullies, and most of us agree that we would try to do something if Hanako was being bullied.
It makes me wonder, if you saw, instead of Hanako, someone like Shizune, Kenji or Suzu getting bullied, what would you do?
Trivun wrote:If this was like a scenario where I'm a character in the VN, or if Hanako was real, then it would depend on which of two situations we're in. In the first, I don't know Hanako, so I'd simply react as I would with anyone else. I'd head over there and try to defend her, because I hate bullies (I was bullied myself, though thankfully never physically), and use violence if needed but otherwise would effectively just try to defend an innocent in a tough spot. The defining point here is that it's unknown whether Hanako would be grateful, or react in a negative way to what could potentially appear to be a bit more of a 'white knight' reaction on my part by charging in to help.
In the second case, I would already know Hanako, and thus would have a better idea of how she'd react to me helping. That said, I would still help, and still use whatever means necessary to get rid of the bullies, but my behaviour in doing so would possibly be a bit more restrained to try and keep Hanako from feeling I was simply treating her as someone to be saved (even if, in that singular scenario, it's actually true).
"cold hard look" You mean a Kubrick Stare? It is a good way to say "fuck off. now" (I am skilled in doing this expression, since while not physically imposing my imagination scares the shit out of people).pandaphil wrote:Trivun wrote:If this was like a scenario where I'm a character in the VN, or if Hanako was real, then it would depend on which of two situations we're in. In the first, I don't know Hanako, so I'd simply react as I would with anyone else. I'd head over there and try to defend her, because I hate bullies (I was bullied myself, though thankfully never physically), and use violence if needed but otherwise would effectively just try to defend an innocent in a tough spot. The defining point here is that it's unknown whether Hanako would be grateful, or react in a negative way to what could potentially appear to be a bit more of a 'white knight' reaction on my part by charging in to help.
In the second case, I would already know Hanako, and thus would have a better idea of how she'd react to me helping. That said, I would still help, and still use whatever means necessary to get rid of the bullies, but my behaviour in doing so would possibly be a bit more restrained to try and keep Hanako from feeling I was simply treating her as someone to be saved (even if, in that singular scenario, it's actually true).
Thats it exactly. Thats why I'd take a moment to watch what was happening. If she were feeling confindent to lash out at the other person, I wouldn't interfere. But if she appeared to be shutting down or if the other person were getting aggresive, I'd just walk over with a friendly, "Hey, hows it going?" In most cases I think that would be enough to defuse any situation. Perhaps give the bully a cold hard look, or some other subtle sign that let the bully know to back the hell off, but without giving the impression that I was there on my white horse.
Suzu wouldn't get bullied on account of she never moves from her desk anyway. Kenji...Hell, I'd grab popcorn.Dream wrote:I agree that there's probably not much point in continuing the discussion, but i would just like to say that it's really sad that someone felt so hurt by something that happened here that they're not going to return to this forum and will probably keep very unpleasant memories of the place.
And yeah, we already owned the bullies, and most of us agree that we would try to do something if Hanako was being bullied.
It makes me wonder, if you saw, instead of Hanako, someone like Shizune, Kenji or Suzu getting bullied, what would you do?
*sees someone being bullied*KeiichiO wrote:I sure do love making topics! ^_^
Anyway, this is my response to the, "If you could bully Hanako in the game" thread. So, if you saw someone picking on Hanako weather it was about her scars or not, how would you react? Me being the irrational person I am, I'd probably punch them in the face, following by scolding them. I hate bullying that much. I'm not sure how Hanako would react to that, she might not like it because it just brings more attention to her, but I think at that point, my emotions would have taken over.
That's how I would react, how would you?
Also, this doesn't have to be just Hanako, it could be Emi, or any fictional character really. (Mostely KS characters. This is the KS forums )
CaptPonyholder wrote:Mind you, I would never harass a girl that wasn't harassing me. Guys... they are a different story.
I'm guessing your pet peeve is double standards involving men and women? If so, I agree. So much.Xanatos wrote: If you're gonna be a bully, don't half-ass it just because a potential target has no dick. "Oh, I wouldn't harass a girl, just guys. Because, you know, they're totally different and it totally matters in even the slightest way!" "Hitting girls is wrong!...But yeah, I just shoved some dude's head in the toilet." Females are not precious. They're not special. Everyone needs to quit pretending otherwise. Either be a bully or don't but you can take girls off the damn pedestal already, world. Stupid, illogical, mindless, idiotic, worthless, inane double standard bullshit...Five points to whoever can guess my pet peeve.
On-topic: As a former bully (who harassed guys and girls both because they're the same targets and I prefer not to contribute to a baseless sense of entitlement to special treatment, I'd be as likely to pass on by as help her out. Depends on the extent of the bullying witnessed. And if I did help, it'd be with a quick kick or punch to any of numerous very senstitive-to-pain areas, a sarcastic quip, and a calm stroll away. And for the record, when I'd harass girls, I'd always get that double standard crap and deliver (a variant of) the above speech. If the person was a girl, I'd smack her just to reinforce my point.
Double standards involvi- NO! My pet peeve is too much bread in the bread:filling ratio of a sandwich. Pay attention.Steinherz wrote:I'm guessing your pet peeve is double standards involving men and women? If so, I agree. So much.Xanatos wrote: If you're gonna be a bully, don't half-ass it just because a potential target has no dick. "Oh, I wouldn't harass a girl, just guys. Because, you know, they're totally different and it totally matters in even the slightest way!" "Hitting girls is wrong!...But yeah, I just shoved some dude's head in the toilet." Females are not precious. They're not special. Everyone needs to quit pretending otherwise. Either be a bully or don't but you can take girls off the damn pedestal already, world. Stupid, illogical, mindless, idiotic, worthless, inane double standard bullshit...Five points to whoever can guess my pet peeve.
On-topic: As a former bully (who harassed guys and girls both because they're the same targets and I prefer not to contribute to a baseless sense of entitlement to special treatment, I'd be as likely to pass on by as help her out. Depends on the extent of the bullying witnessed. And if I did help, it'd be with a quick kick or punch to any of numerous very senstitive-to-pain areas, a sarcastic quip, and a calm stroll away. And for the record, when I'd harass girls, I'd always get that double standard crap and deliver (a variant of) the above speech. If the person was a girl, I'd smack her just to reinforce my point.
If I witnessed Hanako getting bullied, I'd derail the bully.KeiichiO wrote:I totally forgot the purpose of this thread. Could you guys remind me again why I made it??