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Re: Ask!
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:07 pm
by Nicol Armarfi
tommo1982 wrote:Where did the idea for one of the song's name 'Wiosna' come from? I was utterly surprised to see a word from my language in this game. Is the creator Polish or Japanese?
When I started writing the soundtrack I was really bad at naming the songs, so a lot of those were named by other people on the team (to my knowledge none of us were Japanese nor Polish; I'm Canadian personally). Wiosna, though, is one of the tracks I did name myself, and that one is straight up just taken from
this song. <3 chopin
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:07 am
by ComradeHX
It is me or does Lily's route feel a lot longer than Hanako's???
Was there no way to make Hanako's route longer?
Re: Ask!
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:54 pm
by tommo1982
TheHivemind wrote:misterprinny wrote:Where I live, it is New Year's Day. This is a question to each dev personally, what are your goals for the New Year in terms of 4LS or in their own lives?
Also, with that being said, in a few days (exactly 3 days where I live), it will be the first anniversary of Katawa Shoujo's release date. Again, to each dev personally, what are your thoughts now that the game has been out for a year?
Every time I think about the fact that this is a thing I had a hand in I feel a mixture of pride and confusion. Pride, because a lot of people seem to like it, even the parts I wrote (sometimes
especially the parts I wrote, and that's awesome. Confusion, because a lot of people seem to like it, even the parts I wrote (sometimes
especially the parts I wrote).
A few weeks (actually it's probably months at this point, my sense of time is long gone) ago I actually played through Emi's path for the first time ever (all previous interaction had involved skipping around scenes, which is a thing you get to do when you are a dev. It's the best). I actually didn't hate it! After so long spent only looking at the stuff that needed to be re-written and didn't come out like I wanted it to (so like the whole path, really) during development, I never wanted to play the full thing again. Thank a combination of boredom and cheap booze for showing me the error of my ways. So these days it's a little more pride than confusion that it's had such an impact.
As far as goals for the new year go, I've got to get off my lazy ass and make a blog of some kind so I can announce my next project. Which, come to think of it, still needs an artist.
EDIT:
That didn't take long.
I thought you did a good job writing Emi's path. It was my first to finish. I don't count the one where I ended spending the festival with Kenji and dying, even if it was the first one. Emi is my favorite so far and I believe it will stay one
I'm curious though. Writing Emi's path did you consult anyone with Hisao's condition how it affects life and how far can they push their exercises? I'm curious about all the girls too. Reading through Emi's, Shizunes and Lily's path I begun to wonder whether authors tried to put themselves in their place or did they consult someone. Some of Hisao's observations gave me a suggestion it might be the latter.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:34 pm
by CaptPonyholder
I have a question to you developers.
You are already planning a new title. I was simply wondering if it will be another Visual Novel? I absolutely love these now, however the only one I have played has be Katawa Shoujo (even at that, I have only finished Emi's story). From what I have gathered, most other "games" in this genre lead more toward sex as the goal instead of the experience and learning about the characters. Will the characters be at the forefront of your next adventure? Also, will the Artist be here as well? I do enjoy the art in the game quite a bit.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:38 am
by TheHivemind
tommo1982 wrote:
I'm curious though. Writing Emi's path did you consult anyone with Hisao's condition how it affects life and how far can they push their exercises? I'm curious about all the girls too. Reading through Emi's, Shizunes and Lily's path I begun to wonder whether authors tried to put themselves in their place or did they consult someone. Some of Hisao's observations gave me a suggestion it might be the latter.
Most of the details on Hisao's condition came from a combination of wikipedia and talking to Silentcook. Mostly talking to Silentcook, because he was our medical expert. Anything else I made up.
CaptPonyholder wrote:
You are already planning a new title. I was simply wondering if it will be another Visual Novel? I absolutely love these now, however the only one I have played has be Katawa Shoujo (even at that, I have only finished Emi's story). From what I have gathered, most other "games" in this genre lead more toward sex as the goal instead of the experience and learning about the characters. Will the characters be at the forefront of your next adventure? Also, will the Artist be here as well? I do enjoy the art in the game quite a bit.
I think it is all VNs in the works now among the various other developers. As for me, my next project isn't even a game of any sort. I posted about it
over here.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:17 pm
by udscbt
I've not finished Lilly's route nor started Shizune's yet, but in all the other routes I noticed that Hisao never talked with his parents while at Yamaku.
In the story it doesn't seem that there are this kind of problems in the Nakai family, Hisao remained alone at home sometimes because of his parents' business but that's it as far as I know.
I can understand that Hisao never called them, he wanted to start a new life forgetting the past, but why they never called him? Or they did and it isn't portraied in the game? Or simply you didn't think about it while writing the story (it happens
)?
On a less serious note (maybe):
There really is a feminist conspirancy? I don't think Kenji is all that wrong. I mean... two out of two class representatives that Hisao knows are girls, all the members of the school council are girls, the best and second best runners in the school are girls, the best artist of the school is a girl, no boy (other than Hisao) ever do something noteworthy. And as Kenji himself noticed: "There are a lot of cute girls here. A strangely disproportionate amount.[...]the number of girls in this school is slightly but significantly higher than the amount of boys? It's like 60-40.". There's obviously something going on here!
Re: Ask!
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:19 pm
by CaptPonyholder
TheHivemind wrote:tommo1982 wrote:
I'm curious though. Writing Emi's path did you consult anyone with Hisao's condition how it affects life and how far can they push their exercises? I'm curious about all the girls too. Reading through Emi's, Shizunes and Lily's path I begun to wonder whether authors tried to put themselves in their place or did they consult someone. Some of Hisao's observations gave me a suggestion it might be the latter.
Most of the details on Hisao's condition came from a combination of wikipedia and talking to Silentcook. Mostly talking to Silentcook, because he was our medical expert. Anything else I made up.
CaptPonyholder wrote:
You are already planning a new title. I was simply wondering if it will be another Visual Novel? I absolutely love these now, however the only one I have played has be Katawa Shoujo (even at that, I have only finished Emi's story). From what I have gathered, most other "games" in this genre lead more toward sex as the goal instead of the experience and learning about the characters. Will the characters be at the forefront of your next adventure? Also, will the Artist be here as well? I do enjoy the art in the game quite a bit.
I think it is all VNs in the works now among the various other developers. As for me, my next project isn't even a game of any sort. I posted about it
over here.
Wait, so each member is doing their own thing now? There won't be another "Katawa Shoujo" type VN where everyone in 4LS will work on? That makes me incredibly sad.
Also, is it possible that there would be a future return to Yamaku Academy with some new character ideas by RAITA? I love the idea of Yamaku Academy and would love to continue exploring it, even if it was through the views of a Teacher or Female (Hopefully, neither of which will have sex, well... if need be, but not for a Teacher route. I hate Pedophilia as it is >.<).
Re: Ask!
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:18 pm
by Aura
udscbt wrote:I've not finished Lilly's route nor started Shizune's yet, but in all the other routes I noticed that Hisao never talked with his parents while at Yamaku.
In the story it doesn't seem that there are this kind of problems in the Nakai family, Hisao remained alone at home sometimes because of his parents' business but that's it as far as I know.
I can understand that Hisao never called them, he wanted to start a new life forgetting the past, but why they never called him? Or they did and it isn't portraied in the game? Or simply you didn't think about it while writing the story (it happens :))?
Whatever communication Hisao had with his parents was of no consequence to the stories so it didn't appear.
udscbt wrote:On a less serious note (maybe):
There really is a feminist conspirancy? I don't think Kenji is all that wrong. I mean... two out of two class representatives that Hisao knows are girls, all the members of the school council are girls, the best and second best runners in the school are girls, the best artist of the school is a girl, no boy (other than Hisao) ever do something noteworthy. And as Kenji himself noticed: "There are a lot of cute girls here. A strangely disproportionate amount.[...]the number of girls in this school is slightly but significantly higher than the amount of boys? It's like 60-40.". There's obviously something going on here!
Them's the facts. Make your own conclusions.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:21 pm
by Aura
CaptPonyholder wrote:Wait, so each member is doing their own thing now? There won't be another "Katawa Shoujo" type VN where everyone in 4LS will work on? That makes me incredibly sad.
Also, is it possible that there would be a future return to Yamaku Academy with some new character ideas by RAITA? I love the idea of Yamaku Academy and would love to continue exploring it, even if it was through the views of a Teacher or Female (Hopefully, neither of which will have sex, well... if need be, but not for a Teacher route. I hate Pedophilia as it is >.<).
Whatever we do next won't involve all of 4LS in one single project all at once, as we've said before. Maybe in the future... We're also not very keen on returning to the setting of KS. For now we're done with it.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:38 am
by Kitsune Spirit
I have a question that's perhaps only related to the fanfics, but I didn't want to make a thread just to ask this one question... and this thread is called "ask" so that's what I'm doing. ^_^; I was looking on the Shimmie at all the wonderful art and I came across a pretty white-haired girl named Moeki Rikka... who is she (by that I mean is she canon)? What's her disability? Or is she just someone's somewhat popular OC?
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:04 am
by Dawnofthestorm
I would really like to know who wrote the route for Rin and if I could converse with him/her.
I really need this.... Please....
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:09 am
by Dawnofthestorm
So Aura herself wrote Rin's path?
....
Aura
I need to talk to Rin, but there is no Rin to talk to and you're the closest i'll ever get....
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:08 pm
by Aura
It's not like I'm hard to reach, I'm on our IRC channel often enough and read my forum PMs daily.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:55 pm
by Silentcook
I'll treat this latest post as a question, mostly for my own amusement. :3
ART DEPT. <---------> WRITING DEPT.
Short <----------------------------> Tall
Female <-------------------------> Male
Glasses <---------------------> Glasses
Of course there are exceptions, but those are the general rules to be in 4LS.
Re: Ask!
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:01 pm
by Aura
Sweets <------------> Alcohol
Depression <-------> Depression