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My wife weeps during the moments which cause me to facepalm. I weep during the moments which cause her to facepalm. We're okay with that.
I don't know a single girl who would read it at the first place, but I'd give it to 25/75 (BUT ONLY IF YOU MANAGED TO FORCE THEM TO READ AT LEAST ONE FULL ARC), most girls I know have prejudices about VNs, some don't care, and the least amount does care, but to a certain extent.
Replace "4chan cripple girl date sim" (which turned off most of them boys) with "Anime-style interactive fiction which has cripple girl sex scenes, and made this beardy toughguy cry his eyes out". Pretty disgusting for a typical girl out there.

wazuzu wrote:My wife weeps during the moments which cause me to facepalm. I weep during the moments which cause her to facepalm. We're okay with that.

This is mildly fascinating to me. Examples?

Atario wrote:This is mildly fascinating to me. Examples?

Some random "good quality" TV drama vs Katawa Shoujo. Was that really unclear for you? If you are looking for some titles, I can't give you some for obvious reasons - I rarely accompany my wife when she watches that, as does she when I read VNs or play (pseudo-)interactive fiction like To The Moon.

wazuzu wrote:

Atario wrote:This is mildly fascinating to me. Examples?

Some random "good quality" TV drama vs Katawa Shoujo. Was that really unclear for you?

Oh. Yeah, it was; I thought you meant moments during Katawa Shoujo made you have opposite reactions.

wazuzu wrote:Replace "4chan cripple girl date sim" (which turned off most of them boys) with "Anime-style interactive fiction which has cripple girl sex scenes, and made this beardy toughguy cry his eyes out". Pretty disgusting for a typical girl out there.

Seems to me that dialing down the bizarre insistence on noting it has 'cripple girl sex scenes' would generally help anyone's reception of it. It's a romance-oriented story with interactive and visual elements. Just say that.

And what exactly qualifies as "typical" in this scenario?

Honestly, if someone told me it was a story about "cripple girl porn", I'd probably want to skip it too.

pandaphil wrote:Honestly, if someone told me it was a story about "cripple girl porn", I'd probably want to skip it too.

Honestly I'd rather be truthful and up front when explaining something that has sexual content in it to someone.
In fact, that's basically what I did.

This is basically how I explained KS to someone at my college:
Me: "Yo you've told me you've played visual novels before right? You might like this one called Katawa Shoujo. But be warned, the subject matter might be a little... odd for you."
Him: "How so? It doesn't have scat or guro or some shit like that?"
M: "No, nothing like that. It's just it's an eroge. And the heroines all have some form of physical disability."
H: "I see. Send me a link and I'll look it up."

He played it, he liked. Shizune's his favorite girl

Steinherz wrote:

pandaphil wrote:Honestly, if someone told me it was a story about "cripple girl porn", I'd probably want to skip it too.

Honestly I'd rather be truthful and up front when explaining something that has sexual content in it to someone.

Okay, it's a romance-oriented story with interactive/visual elements and sex scenes. Still seems like deliberately pointing out the cripple aspect would serve little purpose beyond enabling biased preconceived negativity.

Potato wrote:

Steinherz wrote:

pandaphil wrote:Honestly, if someone told me it was a story about "cripple girl porn", I'd probably want to skip it too.

Honestly I'd rather be truthful and up front when explaining something that has sexual content in it to someone.

Okay, it's a romance-oriented story with interactive/visual elements and sex scenes. Still seems like deliberately pointing out the cripple aspect would serve little purpose beyond enabling biased preconceived negativity.

So leaving out a main plot point is a good idea?
Alrighty then

Steinherz wrote:So leaving out a main plot point is a good idea?
Alrighty then

If you're referring to the presence of cripples, that's the very second plot point introduced so I doubt it would damage much to let them get into the story a bit before learning it. XD

Would you introduce Titanic as "a movie about a boat and this couple who fucks on it"? No, because the sex itself isn't important to the point of the story. It's an activity that happens but if it didn't, the plot could go on fine with a minor rewrite. It's no more a main plot point than the picnic with Emi and Rin.

Besides, if they can't figure out themselves that sex might occur in a romance story, they need to sit down and have a talk with their parents.

Personally, I'd tell them nothing of the sort and turn on the censor without saying anything. Then just watch the reaction.

Potato wrote:

Steinherz wrote:

pandaphil wrote:Honestly, if someone told me it was a story about "cripple girl porn", I'd probably want to skip it too.

Honestly I'd rather be truthful and up front when explaining something that has sexual content in it to someone.

Okay, it's a romance-oriented story with interactive/visual elements and sex scenes. Still seems like deliberately pointing out the cripple aspect would serve little purpose beyond enabling biased preconceived negativity.

That pretty much describes 95% of love stories these days doesn't it?

All that emphasizing the 'cripple' aspect does is give people the impression that its full of scenes of girls jerking you off with their legs stumps or something.

(Oh crap, hope I didn't give some fanfic writers ideas).

pandaphil wrote:(Oh crap, hope I didn't give some fanfic writers ideas).

Trust me, it's already been written somewhere.

Potato wrote:Would you introduce Titanic as "a movie about a boat and this couple who fucks on it"?

Honestly, I'd introduce it as "that shitty James Cameron movie where Leonardo DiCaprio drowns for no good reason whatsoever."

pandaphil wrote:(Oh crap, hope I didn't give some fanfic writers ideas).

Nope but you've given me a boner.

pandaphil wrote:Believe it or not, women think almost exactly like men.

That's debatable.

Steinherz wrote:Honestly I'd rather be truthful and up front when explaining something that has sexual content in it to someone.

I agree. But...

Potato wrote:Okay, it's a romance-oriented story with interactive/visual elements and sex scenes. :lol: Still seems like deliberately pointing out the cripple aspect would serve little purpose beyond enabling biased preconceived negativity.

You don't tell it, you will be scolded for not telling them the "truth".
You tell it, they will not play the game. And you will be scolded anyway.

pandaphil wrote:It helps a lot that KS isn't overly sexist like so many VN's and dating sims, and is about more than just "getting laid".

I've got to confess that KS is my first VN.
I usually am, you know, into more action or strategy games.