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Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:36 pm
by TheCatBeyondSpace!
Since when is Shizune blind?
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:48 pm
by MegaMoto
TheCatBeyondSpace! wrote:Since when is Shizune blind?
Well that's embarrassing.
. Fixed now.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:28 pm
by TheCatBeyondSpace!
MegaMoto wrote:TheCatBeyondSpace! wrote:Since when is Shizune blind?
Well that's embarrassing.
. Fixed now.
Kidding! I'm Kidding... mostly...
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:51 pm
by wazuzu
Shizune would never sign "What the hell is wrong with you?", since a middle finger is easier to show.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:14 am
by Xanatos
wazuzu wrote:Shizune would never sign "What the hell is wrong with you?", since a middle finger is easier to show.
Most valid point on the forum.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:06 am
by LorSquirrel
Agreed.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:10 am
by wazuzu
...I feel ashamed now.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:39 am
by Greeny
This would be so awesome.
I think that problems in communication between Shizune and Kenji would actually make for an incredibly entertaining route, especially when you bring Misha into the picture, trying to translate Kenji's incoherent rantings. Still we're hinted at that Kenji was once fairly normal, even had a girlfriend, and is not entirely a lost cause, so it might actually be a really good story.
Otherwise, of course Hisao (the mysterious new student, who appears to be a loner) and Misha (the girl who loves me) would be romance options as well. Maybe one new character could be introduced, who was one of the people to leave the student council during Shizune's reign? Maybe they had reasons other than what Shizune suspects?
Hanako would be difficult to do, as a main character. Who else beside Hisao would even qualify as a potential love interest for her? What kind of character would be introduced?
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:52 pm
by EyesOfLilly
A lesbian route with Misha and Shizune would be awesome to see or failing that Misha and Miki heheheh
or Miki's POV maybe she could get with some of the guys or even Hisao.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:23 pm
by Steinherz
EyesOfLilly wrote:A lesbian route with Misha and Shizune would be awesome to see or failing that Misha and Miki heheheh
or Miki's POV maybe she could get with some of the guys or even Hisao.
*cough*hasaMikiXEmific*cough*
and the second one, something like this?:
[shimmie]2059[/shimmie]
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:32 pm
by EyesOfLilly
Steinherz wrote:EyesOfLilly wrote:A lesbian route with Misha and Shizune would be awesome to see or failing that Misha and Miki heheheh
or Miki's POV maybe she could get with some of the guys or even Hisao.
*cough*hasaMikiXEmific*cough*
Hmmm interesting...
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:21 pm
by Firewind
Playing from the girls' perspective? That would be.....interesting to say the least. But I somehow know that this is not going to happen...
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:52 pm
by Sea
So I've been thinking about this for a while now, and as I play thru KS (again) it seems to me that the experiences are shaped by hisao's choices because, simply put; he is a very flat character. I'm not hating on the writing at all but the only way his personality develops is when he makes choices to a certain girl, and that adds color to his otherwise blank canvas of a character.
The 'blank' Hisao at the start has no real preference toward anything other than the usual but as he makes choices it turns out that is what he is like. But after playing Hanako's route Hisao and Emi's route Hisao they are completely different characters. If you were to play the game from the girl's perspective, they wouldn't have relationship paths, only choices in how they respond to Hisao which will always be weird seeing as hisao's choices are what they respond to. A 'canon' Hisao would have to be established and the girls would be dynamic, desyncing with the original story.
The only thing I could see is a Kenji POV stalking Hisao at everything he does, and it would overlay a selected play through, showing Kenji's reactions and the such. Besides, would he really stand by after his bro was corrupted in the ultimate way by the feminists?
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:34 pm
by Xanatos
Sea wrote:So I've been thinking about this for a while now, and as I play thru KS (again) it seems to me that the experiences are shaped by hisao's choices because, simply put; he is a very flat character. I'm not hating on the writing at all but the only way his personality develops is when he makes choices to a certain girl, and that adds color to his otherwise blank canvas of a character.
The 'blank' Hisao at the start has no real preference toward anything other than the usual but as he makes choices it turns out that is what he is like. But after playing Hanako's route Hisao and Emi's route Hisao they are completely different characters. If you were to play the game from the girl's perspective, they wouldn't have relationship paths, only choices in how they respond to Hisao which will always be weird seeing as hisao's choices are what they respond to. A 'canon' Hisao would have to be established and the girls would be dynamic, desyncing with the original story.
The only thing I could see is a Kenji POV stalking Hisao at everything he does, and it would overlay a selected play through, showing Kenji's reactions and the such. Besides, would he really stand by after his bro was corrupted in the ultimate way by the feminists?
...Congratulations. You've learned a basic fact about visual novels. Woo...hoo...?
And a game from the girl's perspective could just as easily keep a dynamic Hisao.
Re: Let's reverse things for a second
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:49 pm
by Oddball
The 'blank' Hisao at the start has no real preference toward anything other than the usual but as he makes choices it turns out that is what he is like. But after playing Hanako's route Hisao and Emi's route Hisao they are completely different characters. If you were to play the game from the girl's perspective, they wouldn't have relationship paths, only choices in how they respond to Hisao which will always be weird seeing as hisao's choices are what they respond to. A 'canon' Hisao would have to be established and the girls would be dynamic, desyncing with the original story.
Hisao is the same type of person regardless. He develops a bit differently depending on who he's hanging out with, but that's true of anyone.
I'll give you the fact that he's a bit bland, yeah. He's never really done anything with his life, his biggest hobby seems to be "just hanging out", and he pretty much goes with the flow, but there are quite a few consistent characteristics regardless of what route you take.
He likes reading. He's into science. He likes helping people, even before he came to Yamaku he talks about being the peacekeeper in his group, but he's also shown to be uncomfortable when placed in a leadership role. He enjoys competing and playing games, but does it for social reasons rather than any desire to win. Hes' smart but doesn't like to study. He's friendly but not outgoing. He has no clue how to deal with women at all.
Basically if you were playing from the girls point of view, Hisao would be the "quiet, nice guy" option. He may not be exciting, but he's "safe."