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Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:09 pm
by lukesrp
Ruined wrote:Exactly why I'm not even going to try finishing it with 100%, I appreciate their amazing work however.

But Hanako... How she says: I hate you and I hate Lilly!! Breaks my heart man, I wish I could unsee it.
It is a heartbreaking and un-fulfilling ending to say the least. But it is a very realistic prospect. This is how Guest Poster really explained it to me.
Guest Poster wrote:KS is rather unique in that Hanako views those white knighting tendencies the way a real person would view them...as belittling. If you haven't done so yet, I strongly urge you to also watch Hanako's bad ending, where Hisao instead of curbing his protective tendencies allows them to spin outside of control. It's a soul-crushing, but very powerful ending and without wanting to give too much away
So it is heartbreaking, but everybody should still see it to see the two extremes of how her relationship can end or thrive as it does add to the feel of the game, also it does honestly reflect onto real life. Trying to help "broken" people when they don't see themselves as neither "broken" nor needing help will only push them further away.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:21 pm
by udscbt
yummines wrote:On a sidenote my fav opening song is "Jitter"
Talking about Jitter, am I the only one that feels a chill down the spine while listening to it? All the other cinematics soundtracks have no effect to me, but when I hear Jitter I paralize for a moment and see the full cinematic in my head.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:21 pm
by lukesrp
udscbt wrote:
yummines wrote:On a sidenote my fav opening song is "Jitter"
Talking about Jitter, am I the only one that feels a chill down the spine while listening to it? All the other cinematics soundtracks have no effect to me, but when I hear Jitter I paralize for a moment and see the full cinematic in my head.
For me it's Breathlessly and Innocence. They are both played towards the end of Hanko's arc and it always makes me think back to my emotions at the time. I think it's good the the music can have such an effect on me that whenever I hear it I instantly get some "feels" back.

Actually to be fair, whenever I hear a slow piano track from KS It remind's me of all the things that have happened in not only Hanako's arc but all the other's too. Bringing back all my emotion and trains-of-thought at the time. Once again, I still really think this is a good thing as it makes me feel motivated.

If at one point in my life, I can hear that music and not feel bad or have any "feels". I know I will truly have peace of mind.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:11 pm
by Fiandra
lukesrp wrote:
udscbt wrote:
yummines wrote:On a sidenote my fav opening song is "Jitter"
Talking about Jitter, am I the only one that feels a chill down the spine while listening to it? All the other cinematics soundtracks have no effect to me, but when I hear Jitter I paralize for a moment and see the full cinematic in my head.
For me it's Breathlessly and Innocence. They are both played towards the end of Hanko's arc and it always makes me think back to my emotions at the time. I think it's good the the music can have such an effect on me that whenever I hear it I instantly get some "feels" back.
For me it's Lullaby of Open Eyes, Comfort, and Innocence. Those feels...

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:22 pm
by lukesrp
Fiandra wrote:For me it's Lullaby of Open Eyes, Comfort, and Innocence. Those feels...
Hey, feels aren't a bad thing though. Just means that you see a part of yourself that you want to improve in KS. On a side-note, has anyone made any not-so-drastic changes to their life?

For example I now drink tea twice a day.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:23 am
by Fiandra
lukesrp wrote:
Fiandra wrote:For me it's Lullaby of Open Eyes, Comfort, and Innocence. Those feels...
Hey, feels aren't a bad thing though. Just means that you see a part of yourself that you want to improve in KS. On a side-note, has anyone made any not-so-drastic changes to their life?

For example I now drink tea twice a day.
I didn't say those feels are a bad thing :P just made me re-think some things I have done in life and stuff :D

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:33 am
by lukesrp
Fiandra wrote:
lukesrp wrote:
Fiandra wrote:For me it's Lullaby of Open Eyes, Comfort, and Innocence. Those feels...
Hey, feels aren't a bad thing though. Just means that you see a part of yourself that you want to improve in KS. On a side-note, has anyone made any not-so-drastic changes to their life?

For example I now drink tea twice a day.
I didn't say those feels are a bad thing :P just made me re-think some things I have done in life and stuff :D
Neither did I, I think the "feels" you get from the game is the best part. I know I have never played anything else which has made me think as much about my day to day life than this.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:27 am
by Ruined
The good thing is that after playing the game, I've picked up quite some good habits (some are quite personal and I ain't even gonna talk about it here). The bad thing is that I became depressed and thought what have I done for the last half of my life. You could actually say this one game, have changed my life.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:49 pm
by Oddball
Almost all the scenes from the openings appear to either actually show what happens or symbolically represent what's going on, but there's one I just never quite get.

The scene where Hisao lifts Emi up to get the apple. I can't think of anything in her route that even comes close to Hisao helping her get an apple.

Lemon, yes, but no apple. :twisted:

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:46 pm
by Steinherz
Oddball wrote:Almost all the scenes from the openings appear to either actually show what happens or symbolically represent what's going on, but there's one I just never quite get.

The scene where Hisao lifts Emi up to get the apple. I can't think of anything in her route that even comes close to Hisao helping her get an apple.

Lemon, yes, but no apple. :twisted:
I think it's supposed to be symbolic of them helping each other to grow as a person?

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:31 pm
by Xanatos
Steinherz wrote:
Oddball wrote:Almost all the scenes from the openings appear to either actually show what happens or symbolically represent what's going on, but there's one I just never quite get.

The scene where Hisao lifts Emi up to get the apple. I can't think of anything in her route that even comes close to Hisao helping her get an apple.

Lemon, yes, but no apple. :twisted:
I think it's supposed to be symbolic of them helping each other to grow as a person?
Oh, she definitely helped Hisao "grow", if you know what I mean... :lol:

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:38 pm
by Steinherz
Xanatos wrote:
Steinherz wrote:
Oddball wrote:Almost all the scenes from the openings appear to either actually show what happens or symbolically represent what's going on, but there's one I just never quite get.

The scene where Hisao lifts Emi up to get the apple. I can't think of anything in her route that even comes close to Hisao helping her get an apple.

Lemon, yes, but no apple. :twisted:
I think it's supposed to be symbolic of them helping each other to grow as a person?
Oh, she definitely helped Hisao "grow", if you know what I mean... :lol:
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that's not the point. And I wasn't trying to make something that could be taken the wrong way.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:14 pm
by Xanatos
Steinherz wrote:I wasn't trying to make something that could be taken the wrong way.
Hello and welcome to the internet.

:lol: If it helps, you're probably right about it.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:55 am
by Dream
Personally, i always saw that scene (Emi getting the apple) as a sort of comeback or response to the prior scene, where Emi is helping Hisao.

But the idea of that scene being a symbolism for how they help each other group is pretty tight too.

Re: Significance of the Act 2 Openings (Spoilers)

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:06 pm
by Steinherz
Dream wrote:Personally, i always saw that scene (Emi getting the apple) as a sort of comeback or response to the prior scene, where Emi is helping Hisao.

But the idea of that scene being a symbolism for how they help each other group is pretty tight too.
That's what I meant to say.
They were helping each other, not sure where the "grow" part came from