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xperroni wrote:

Mirage_GSM wrote:I loved the realistic way Emi's path played out. He found it unsettling...

I guess that part of what bothered me, besides how her path stirred memories of real arguments, is that at first contact Emi looks cute and vaguely childish; combined with her short stature and ponytails, it all gives her a very loli* feel. In hindsight, there were hints all along – the way she bossed Hisao around from the very beginning was definitely off-character for a loli – but it was quite a shock when this cute little girl, which I assumed could do little more than pout when distressed, started getting back at Hisao's misguided attempts at support with such viciousness. It really brought home the point of how little Hisao – and by extension myself – knew about her true nature.

* I know some people disagree to calling Emi a loli, and for a moment I thought this was a strongly held objection – but since then I've been assured nobody gets worked up the least by her being described like that, and so I'm quite happy to stick to my own opinion.

Xanatos wrote:Most people probably disagree on the basis that it's factually incorrect.

Xanatos wrote:You did get all the endings, right?

Xanatos wrote:But I digress. Emi's path was all sorts of unsettling. Hell, most of the paths were...Her bad ending was the first one I got after the picnic with Kenji. There's something severely unsettling about it when just talking to some girl is worse than breaking your neck during a picnic. You did get all the endings, right? Two for Emi, three for Hanako. If not, I suggest going for it. They hurt like hell but they add a lot to the characters and overall experience.

Rin's path is fairly disturbing as well...

xperroni wrote:

Xanatos wrote:Most people probably disagree on the basis that it's factually incorrect.

Only that "loli" is not a physical measurement unit, nor can it otherwise be unambiguously defined. You seem to think of the term as relating strictly to age, and that may well have been its origins – but ultimately a word "means" what people use it for, and in this case as in many others actual usage is much more diverse. Make a search for "loli definition" on Google and this is the kind of account you may get:

How do we define a loli? Is it by age? Height? Breast size? Each person seems to have their own subjective opinion. For some, age is the only defining factor. Others take a more liberal approach and go by appearance alone. If she looks like a loli, she is a loli, no matter if she’s 14 or 40 (I’m looking at you, Tsukuyomi Komoe). As I said once, even if you’re not a loli, you can still dress like one. *

Or take a look on Sankaku Complex (extremely Not Safe For Work) – you'll see they have a very nuanced view to what a loli is.

Xanatos wrote:You did get all the endings, right?

No I didn't, nor do I plan to. I play games for my own amusement, not the other way around.

How do we define a loli? Is it by age? Height? Breast size? Each person seems to have their own subjective opinion. For some, age is the only defining factor. Others take a more liberal approach and go by appearance alone. If she looks like a loli, she is a loli, no matter if she’s 14 or 40 (I’m looking at you, Tsukuyomi Komoe).

As I said once, even if you’re not a loli, you can still dress like one. *

inquisitivenegro wrote:Correction: A word means what people who know what the word is use it for

Oddball wrote:I have a Spider-man costume in my closet. Does wearing that make me Spider-man?

xperroni wrote:

Xanatos wrote:Most people probably disagree on the basis that it's factually incorrect.

Only that "loli" is not a physical measurement unit, nor can it otherwise be unambiguously defined. You seem to think of the term as relating strictly to age, and that may well have been its origins – but ultimately a word "means" what people use it for, and in this case as in many others actual usage is much more diverse. Make a search for "loli definition" on Google and this is the kind of account you may get:

How do we define a loli? Is it by age? Height? Breast size? Each person seems to have their own subjective opinion. For some, age is the only defining factor. Others take a more liberal approach and go by appearance alone. If she looks like a loli, she is a loli, no matter if she’s 14 or 40 (I’m looking at you, Tsukuyomi Komoe). As I said once, even if you’re not a loli, you can still dress like one. *

Xanatos wrote:

xperroni wrote:

Xanatos wrote:Most people probably disagree on the basis that it's factually incorrect.

Only that "loli" is not a physical measurement unit, nor can it otherwise be unambiguously defined. You seem to think of the term as relating strictly to age, and that may well have been its origins – but ultimately a word "means" what people use it for, and in this case as in many others actual usage is much more diverse. Make a search for "loli definition" on Google and this is the kind of account you may get:

How do we define a loli? Is it by age? Height? Breast size? Each person seems to have their own subjective opinion. For some, age is the only defining factor. Others take a more liberal approach and go by appearance alone. If she looks like a loli, she is a loli, no matter if she’s 14 or 40 (I’m looking at you, Tsukuyomi Komoe). As I said once, even if you’re not a loli, you can still dress like one. *

Physical age is the defining factor. If they're technically 40 years old but physically 10, that's still 10. Emi, however, is not 10.

Steinherz wrote:I think what xperroni is getting at is a "loli" is a female character who is either young, or looks younger than they really are (in Emi's case she does not look 19, she looks closer to 16 or so)