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ThistlewickVII wrote: If they have no frame of reference, they might not understand the game. It's about overcoming misconceptions, that these girls are people and legitimate love interests.

If they have nothing to overcome, what does the game become?
A game about a crazy guy who wears a leaf when he showers and drinks on the school roof?

ThistlewickVII wrote:I was posting on a topic about forgetting KS to play it again,
And said that in 50 years I Might have forgotten some of it, so then I could Play it again,
And that I'd leave it in my will that everyone should play it.

And this got me thinking, what will this game say about our Generation when people look back at 2012?
Will the game lose some of it's impact when it is written in Archaic Text (as it will be to them)?
People won't know about mobile phones or music-boxes or

maybe there won't even be disabilities as technology and surgery improve.
I know the game is about "irrelevant of disabilities, not despite or because", but would the game still work?

Enemy | wrote:"Will she remember me 50 years later? I wish I could save her in some sort of time machine"

Helbereth wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:42 am

i think my generation (those who are 18 currently) are probably the first generation to grow up with video games and the internet

That's accurate. My generation was the first to grow up with home video games - being born in 1980. The internet was, technically, already around and in sparring use by the mid-80s, but it really hit its stride in the mid-late 90s as I was finishing High School. Kids your age now were, perhaps, in preschool around that time, so they would have been exposed to the internet almost at the same time as they were developing cognitive thinking skills and such (I'm no expert, but I believe that happens around age 3-4 - at least the higher reasoning anyway. Cognition starts at birth, I'm pretty sure. There's got to be some kind of brain function saying 'i need to breathe' and 'i need to eat' at that point).

In any case, the internet - barring thermonuclear war, meteor strikes or other civilization-destroying disasters - is here to stay. The amount of information out there at people's fingertips is already staggering and it's still growing.

In 50 years, virtually all of human history will be recorded and reviewed through a fast, digital interface and available at any time. I might be overly optimistic here, but I think you get the point. Everything we know now, everything we knew once before, and anything we'll know by then will be carefully cataloged and dog-eared for our convenience, hovering in an invisible cloud. KS will be remembered because everything else is remembered.

Maybe even this thread.

<insert conspiratorial Kenji rant>

Hey there. It's been 12 years now. You probably won't check on these forums again, but if nostalgia ever strikes you into doing so, i have to say it's wonderful to read directly what peoples thought of the future, and kind of funny how drastically it changed. KS is still very much remembered, though not half as popular anymore. What do you think of the time that passed, and of how you thought back when you wrote this?

Maybe in 50 years, it'll be one of those games that has developed a modding scene (that isn't elitist) and that has a "Deluxe" version that consists of mods based off ideas the fans wanted for years (e.g Kenji and Misha routes), adaptations of popular fanfics and other more... far out ideas for routes, all of which are a showcase of Katawa Shoujo and the history of it's fandom.

There will be a lot of fanon knowledge (that is, things that are not in canon) if KS fanfic prospers during this 50 years.

I think KS will be revived if a game is made with disabled people, which the new generation would love and would ask for examples of other games with that theme. There will be a clash between the old guard (if it is still alive) and the new guard (if it does not begin to dominate the fandom) over KS content. Yes I completely believe that Kenji would not be popular with the new generation and there would be a mod to remove him, you know why.

Nero1994 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:37 pm

There will be a lot of fanon knowledge (that is, things that are not in canon) if KS fanfic prospers during this 50 years.

I think KS will be revived if a game is made with disabled people, which the new generation would love and would ask for examples of other games with that theme. There will be a clash between the old guard (if it is still alive) and the new guard (if it does not begin to dominate the fandom) over KS content. Yes I completely believe that Kenji would not be popular with the new generation and there would be a mod to remove him, you know why.

Kenji is one of those characters who ages like wine or milk depending on your personal perspective. I could see mods replacing Kenji with someone who doesn't read like a proto-incel or rewriting him to be less sexist or verbose (kinda like how YIIK had an update that allowed you to disable Alex's lengthy dialogue, making him a silent protagonist).

Though personally I do hope that fans will see potential in Kenji's character and understand why he's a part of the narrative in the first place.

Siphonata wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:01 pm

Nero1994 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:37 pm

There will be a lot of fanon knowledge (that is, things that are not in canon) if KS fanfic prospers during this 50 years.

I think KS will be revived if a game is made with disabled people, which the new generation would love and would ask for examples of other games with that theme. There will be a clash between the old guard (if it is still alive) and the new guard (if it does not begin to dominate the fandom) over KS content. Yes I completely believe that Kenji would not be popular with the new generation and there would be a mod to remove him, you know why.

Kenji is one of those characters who ages like wine or milk depending on your personal perspective. I could see mods replacing Kenji with someone who doesn't read like a proto-incel or rewriting him to be less sexist or verbose (kinda like how YIIK had an update that allowed you to disable Alex's lengthy dialogue, making him a silent protagonist).

Though personally I do hope that fans will see potential in Kenji's character and understand why he's a part of the narrative in the first place.

Every Frodo needs a Sam. Every VN protagonist needs a wacky sidekick

OtakuNinja wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:43 am

Siphonata wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:01 pm

Nero1994 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:37 pm

There will be a lot of fanon knowledge (that is, things that are not in canon) if KS fanfic prospers during this 50 years.

I think KS will be revived if a game is made with disabled people, which the new generation would love and would ask for examples of other games with that theme. There will be a clash between the old guard (if it is still alive) and the new guard (if it does not begin to dominate the fandom) over KS content. Yes I completely believe that Kenji would not be popular with the new generation and there would be a mod to remove him, you know why.

Kenji is one of those characters who ages like wine or milk depending on your personal perspective. I could see mods replacing Kenji with someone who doesn't read like a proto-incel or rewriting him to be less sexist or verbose (kinda like how YIIK had an update that allowed you to disable Alex's lengthy dialogue, making him a silent protagonist).

Though personally I do hope that fans will see potential in Kenji's character and understand why he's a part of the narrative in the first place.

Every Frodo needs a Sam. Every VN protagonist needs a wacky sidekick

With all due respect

Kenji doesn't look like Sam at all, he's more of a Gollum, his route literally kills Hisao if he takes what Kenji says seriously.

Sam is a very loyal friend and voice of reason when Frodo is losing his mind over the ring, nothing like Kenji.

I say this as a Lord of the Rings fan.

Nero1994 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:00 pm

OtakuNinja wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:43 am

Siphonata wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:01 pm

Kenji is one of those characters who ages like wine or milk depending on your personal perspective. I could see mods replacing Kenji with someone who doesn't read like a proto-incel or rewriting him to be less sexist or verbose (kinda like how YIIK had an update that allowed you to disable Alex's lengthy dialogue, making him a silent protagonist).

Though personally I do hope that fans will see potential in Kenji's character and understand why he's a part of the narrative in the first place.

Every Frodo needs a Sam. Every VN protagonist needs a wacky sidekick

With all due respect

Kenji doesn't look like Sam at all, he's more of a Gollum, his route literally kills Hisao if he takes what Kenji says seriously.

Sam is a very loyal friend and voice of reason when Frodo is losing his mind over the ring, nothing like Kenji.

I say this as a Lord of the Rings fan.

Lmao, it was a joke. But I would have to disagree. Kenji is not at all like Gollum. Kenji can be a very loyal friend, in his own way. He's nowhere near a Sam, but in pretty much every route except his own, he is a true bro who looks out for Hisao (in his own way). I recall him being alright with Hanako, polite towards Lilly and pretty chill around Rin and possibly Shizune too (perhaps the latter was an undercover op)

He's a good brother if someone has enough sense to not take his plots seriously, if not... poor Kenji's friend who fell for his nonsense.

I generally like Kenji, but sometimes I wish KS had a disabled male friend of Hisao's age who was more friendly and gave romantic advice.

It's sad that the only sane males are Akio Mutou and Nurse (not so much), but they are two adults in positions of authority and Hisao is a young student.