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Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:21 pm
by Tomate
Flashlights are not practical for a angry mob, you cant start a fire with a flashlight. On the other hand, shotguns are very practical indeed.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:27 pm
by Xiious
Guest wrote:
Oddball wrote:
Megumeru wrote: Woah, woah, WOAH!
Why torches and pitchforks?
Does tradition mean nothing to you!?! :shock: :evil:
"Oh, a bunch of people with torches and pitchforks? Let's break out the shotguns and flashlights. Oh, look, the fallen torches are alighting the ground under their feet."

Practicality > Tradition
*people with torches and pitchforks break out the assault rifles and night vision goggles*

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:32 pm
by Xiious
As to not de-rail the topic, however, I've read almost every review there is about KS on-line. I've never wanted to flame any of them, simply because I'm not that kind of person. To each his own, is my motto about haters.

Personally, some points that some reviews make are not made without merit, but really it's biased with personal opinions. Critical reviewers tend to put aside most biased opinions, and thus are more based on actual reception.

And really, I love reading reviews from biased people, gives me a laugh to think what they are missing out on. xD

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:17 pm
by Megumeru
Oddball wrote: Does tradition mean nothing to you!?! :shock: :evil:
Ok. Tradition?

If shotgun isn't traditional enough, how about...

AK-47 FOR EVERYOOOOOONE!!!!

angry mob upgrade *hinthint*

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:23 pm
by Gandara
Guest wrote:...going out of your way to attack someone's review, and then boasting about it, is probably not a very nice thing to do.
I recall that topic, though I guess that's not terribly impressive since it was not very long ago.

I agree that it's pretty much always better to just let it be. People will hate, no matter what the content. I recently had a YouTube video posted about a Magic: the Gathering deck I built, and even though it's received tons of positive feedback it's gotten a share of negative feedback as well. Not just against the deck itself, but against me. Did I get upset / mad? Hell no. Life's too short to get bent out of shape over haters, and as the ancient idiom goes, "haters gonna hate." No matter what the subject is, there will always, always, ALWAYS be people who do not like it. The fewer there are, the louder their voices will be. It's just natural - they're forced to go all-out due to the overwhelmingly lopsided scale of people who like said thing vs. people who do not.

In short, don't bother. It's not worth your time.

However, I sort of disagree with the final post that was made in the topic that was closed, that Guest was talking about. Whoever the dev was that locked it down mentioned himself and the other devs being "disappointed" that they even made the game, due to the reaction of fans. A little overboard, in my opinion. Hating is intrinsic to the internet, no matter what the subject is. It should be expected, if not condoned, that fans will have the propensity to be stupid, especially given the fervor some fans show towards KS. Wanting to take back a monumental achievement due to simple flaming and internet hating is a bit much.

Having said that, it's at least a lesson to be learned. The devs pay attention to this stuff, and your actions may reflect back to them. Are you interested in seeing more content from people who developed within 4LS? If so, do not disappoint them. Act mature, act like you give a damn about the advancement of the community, and act like you want more quality work.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:30 pm
by Guest
I'd reread that post. Silentcook said that those devs had all agreed that the thread shouldn't exist, not KS itself.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:34 pm
by Gandara
... You sure? I drew what I said from it, contextually at least.

Well, some of the point still stands either way.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:36 pm
by ravenlord
Gandara wrote:... You sure? I drew what I said from it, contextually at least.
Yeah the Devs meant the thread, not the game itself.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:37 pm
by Gandara
ravenlord wrote:Yeah the Devs meant the thread, not the game itself.
*shrug* - guess I'll take your word for it, then.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:37 pm
by yummines
You cant please everybody.

Sure i want to brutally torture anyone who says Zelda: Wind Waker is bad but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I recall a Picasso quote: "Ah good taste. What a dreadfull thing! Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

So i wont bash anyone for having a different opinion.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:51 pm
by Snow_Storm
Deal with it.O

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:03 pm
by Yellow 13
Pic related

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:38 pm
by WorldlyWiseman
Don't try to keep haters from hating, it's the one emotion they get to feel all day.

Of course, we have to be careful ourselves. The internet has allowed outlying fetishes to change from being blind spots in society's perceptions of sexuality to being the perpetual whipping boy of people with really toxic emotions that they don't know how to handle. People who stick to those communities (would you call them adherents of a fetish?) can be just as inwardly toxic when they get up in arms and identify too much with their outsider status, like that one dickbag who made that really long post and then asked us to boost his numbers.

It's an unpleasant topic and I was hoping this thread was going to be about forming 'canon' responses to common criticisms of the game, but I guess not.

Maybe we can talk about particularly ridiculous criticisms of KS?

Let's see; "Cripple-fucking simulator." Yeah, that one was pretty funny. My mental image of that one is some kind of really serious simulation with a psychotic level of detail controlled by dozens of slider-based menus. You could determine how much of a limb is amputated, to what degree their vision is impaired, whether or not they have fine motor control, etc, along thousand-point scales that can be manipulated by hotkeys mid-simulated-coitus. It would be a wonder if you had a hand available for fapping.

Dunno, I just thought it was both ignorant AND hilarious, as opposed to just the usual former.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:17 am
by Bathunter07
I ignore most comments of negatively towards Katawa Shoujo. I can understand why people may not like it. Most of the time, I heard it being boring as the main reason why. I get it. I feel that the game could play out its conflict a bit more in some of its routes. But, for us, it not just about conflicts. It's the characters. We find them interesting and want to talk and expand on them. But for many people, that isn't what they want.

And I see no reason why to get bothered by it.

Re: Proper Reaction to a Negative Reception

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:18 pm
by Nekken
To people who don't already like this particular game, defending it without looking incredibly creepy is probably an impossible task, and therefore only makes the game look worse. As such, flaming is probably a very bad idea. This is the kind of thing that has to be allowed to speak for itself.