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Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:39 pm
by themocaw
Merlyn_LeRoy wrote:Not really hentai (no actual sex), but you might try:
Nana to Kaoru
Mysterious Girlfriend X
These. Nana to Kaoru is actually a really honest and romantic take on BDSM, and Mysterious Girlfriend X. . . well, the author's explicit purpose in writing it is to talk about all the fun erotic things you can do that aren't actually sex :D

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:58 pm
by Bigbishounen
Daitengu wrote:Good luck with that. Porn of any kind tends to drop plot and characterization for bump n grind...
FTFY. :wink:

Seriously, like regular porn, Hentai doesn't generally involve "plot" per-se, beyond being a set up for a good bump-n-grind situation. There are some with a basic plot, and a couple with a bit more of an involved one, but not much. I can't really even think of many off the top of my head... Like someone else said, Bible Black... Maybe Immoral Sisters or Dragon Knights? Meh. Not much out there with a real plot.

That's why i don't really classify KS in the "hentai" category. I think it barely fits into the "eroge" category. It's just a good romantic storyline that happens to also have some sex scenes in it.

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:07 pm
by Merlyn_LeRoy
themocaw wrote:
Merlyn_LeRoy wrote:Not really hentai (no actual sex), but you might try:
Nana to Kaoru
Mysterious Girlfriend X
These. Nana to Kaoru is actually a really honest and romantic take on BDSM, and Mysterious Girlfriend X. . . well, the author's explicit purpose in writing it is to talk about all the fun erotic things you can do that aren't actually sex :D
MGX also has a premise that's initially off-putting like KS: the boy is literally addicted to the girl's saliva. Not only is there no sex, there's (so far) no kissing yet, either, so every day she sucks on her own finger to get some saliva, followed by the boy sucking on her finger...

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:24 pm
by Beoran
While it's more humoristic, I think B Gata H Kei is an interesting take on sex as well. It has a bit of explicit material in it but not too much. The weakest part for me were the attempts at humor with the two wealthy anatgonists who end up to amounting to nothing much of a credible threat to the main character Yamada. The strongest part is that the main character Yamada is a *female* teenager who unapologetically likes sex. Which I think is a refreshing take on it.

Kind Regards,
B.

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:53 pm
by Merlyn_LeRoy
Oh, forgot My Lovely Ghost Kana. This shimmie art started a discussion about it:

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Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:13 pm
by encrypted12345
Oh, yeah. Lovely Ghost Kana, I remember that. That reminds me of Ai-Ren which has hentai, but less than Kana if I remember correctly.

If you like the realism of the Katawa Shoujo H Scenes, there's also Futari Ecchi which is quite educational and good as a manga.

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:56 am
by Daitengu
encrypted12345 wrote:Oh, yeah. Lovely Ghost Kana, I remember that. That reminds me of Ai-Ren which has hentai, but less than Kana if I remember correctly.
Good call on that one. I forgot about Lovely Ghost Kana.

Best bet for decent plot or a plot at all is the Manga and VN routes.

My Balls, and Lilim Kiss are good too. My Balls was hilarious.

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:55 am
by gekiganwing
encrypted12345 wrote:Actually, come to think of it, most good hentai scenes in VNs are purposefully creepy or out-right hilarious. Only Katawa Shoujo can properly do heart-warming H-Scenes.
It has been a while, but I definitely enjoyed reading Kana Little Sister. This visual novel has several plot relevant sex scenes, and they seemed well written. (Regrettably, I can't get my CD-ROM from 2002 to install on my current Windows 7 computer.)

And I also have a lot of positive things to say about Private Nurse. This is also a love triangle story, with one relatively unimportant character as another romance option. I like the music and character designs better than Kana Little Sister, but my main complaint with Private Nurse are the epilogues. There's a heartwarming and plot relevant sex scene followed by several tacked-on sex scenes. It almost ruins the pacing.

A year or two later, I bought Crescendo. I'd call this one a harem drama, as there are five romance options. I was getting kinda weary of smut-and-angst stories, so I only finished one or two routes. Still, I double checked the reviews on Animetric and GameFAQs, and they were positive.

I thought that Edelweiss segued from wacky comedy to drama right around the time the main character picks a girl, and the sex scenes start appearing. The route I read wasn't bad. I should try it again with the recent Mangagamer re-translation patch.

A full fan translation for Kanon has been available for quite some time (though my security program detects a virus in the patch). Still haven't got around to finishing it... I know that Kanon still has respect in some circles, though Jun Maeda's writing on more recent projects seems to be improving.

I can't currently say much about the writing Suika, ef - a fairy tale of the two, the main Da Capo games, Quartett!, or anything Sono Hanabira. Anyone familiar with these?

Re: Hentai that is well writing as KS ??

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:30 am
by encrypted12345
gekiganwing wrote:I can't currently say much about the writing Suika, ef - a fairy tale of the two, the main Da Capo games, Quartett!, or anything Sono Hanabira. Anyone familiar with these?
The Sono Hara series are all Yuri nukige. They have okay characterization and plot, but there's no point in reading them unless you're biased towards yuri.

From what I heard, Da Capo II is much better than Da Capo I, Quartett is good, and ef - a fairy tale of the two has a great atmosphere. They are somewhere in my long backlog. I'll get to them. Eventually.