Re: Parenting the girls
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:01 am
Disabled people are normal people. Peorth is an IRC admin.
OHNOES, MY SECRET IS OUT!Juno wrote:Disabled people are normal people. Peorth is an IRC admin.
This, pretty much, I think.Nizzy wrote:"Disabled people are normal people. Peorth is an IRC admin."
IRC admin ~~ normal ... hmnnn ... ^^
I think the most "handicaps" are pretty irrelevant in question of parenting itself. Probably just trying to be a bit more sensitive towards the mood of one's daughter (or, shock, son), as bullying will most probably occur fairly more often (sad but true) - that said, i guess one should be sensitive to your children in anyway, so, again, the handicaps are mostly irrelevant.
However, i imagine Rin to have the most problems in ordinary day activities (e.g. "bathroom-stuff") so this would probably require some more open and caring parenting as usual. You know, just, be a helping hand a little more often... (yes, puns on a handicap are a totally p-c-way of parenting in a liberal house. I really pity any child that would happen to be mine in the future, handicapped or not. ^^")
As a George Carlin fan I will have to go with him on this one. Handicapped doesn't mean anything. Crippled and disabled are honest, to the point, words and the only shame or insult they carry is in how one uses them, or perceives their use.Peorth wrote:Rule one, you don't use the word 'crippled' around them. We don't like that. We prefer 'handicapped'. That aside, speaking from experience, I'd say it's largely like raising a normal child, though school/etc will be different depending on the disability and if the parents want them integrated into a normal school/etc.
Wait, so your saying that if you had to chose between calling your kid a cripple or handicapped, you wouldn't care if it was the more offensive word or not?Lurchisme wrote:I'm going way off topic here, but I'm against being politically correct - both to your children, and to... well, most people. Some people deserve it. Wherever you call someone crippled or handicapped, African American or the N word, it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly whether your prejudiced against that group or not, no matter what word you use. If your politically correct with someone, it's a way of telling them you don't trust them enough not to take offense at what your saying. And if your careful and tiptoe around your newly disabled child, or friend, or whatever, the message your sending is their disability is something to be ashamed of.
I'm a huge fan of the 'harden the fuck up' parenting method.
Yar, we be sailing tah murky watahs. Political correctness is a complex issue. All i'll say is that words have whatever meaning you ascribe to them, and if you're raising a kid, raising them to be less easily offended is never a bad thing. That said, I think you should parent a disabled child the same as any other, but since everyone has different parenting styles, what that counts as will be very different.scott1and wrote:Wait, so your saying that if you had to chose between calling your kid a cripple or handicapped, you wouldn't care if it was the more offensive word or not?Lurchisme wrote:I'm going way off topic here, but I'm against being politically correct - both to your children, and to... well, most people. Some people deserve it. Wherever you call someone crippled or handicapped, African American or the N word, it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly whether your prejudiced against that group or not, no matter what word you use. If your politically correct with someone, it's a way of telling them you don't trust them enough not to take offense at what your saying. And if your careful and tiptoe around your newly disabled child, or friend, or whatever, the message your sending is their disability is something to be ashamed of.
I'm a huge fan of the 'harden the fuck up' parenting method.
This just made my dayWorthington wrote:Yar, we be sailing tah murky watahs..
So you're saying that you should call black people the N-word because it'll show them that you trust them to not get offended? No. They will get offended. For good reason. I can see exceptions if you actually know them well and it's okay with them, but if you're a stranger it's absolutely not a good idea.Lurchisme wrote:If your politically correct with someone, it's a way of telling them you don't trust them enough not to take offense at what your saying.
No, it means you can call them "black" rather than, say, "afro-americans".G3n0c1de wrote:So you're saying that you should call black people the N-word because it'll show them that you trust them to not get offended?
Negroes.OneMore wrote:No, it means you can call them "black" rather than, say, "afro-americans".G3n0c1de wrote:So you're saying that you should call black people the N-word because it'll show them that you trust them to not get offended?
HomiesPeorth wrote:Negroes.OneMore wrote:No, it means you can call them "black" rather than, say, "afro-americans".G3n0c1de wrote:So you're saying that you should call black people the N-word because it'll show them that you trust them to not get offended?
HumanWorthington wrote:HomiesPeorth wrote:Negroes.OneMore wrote: No, it means you can call them "black" rather than, say, "afro-americans".