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Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:42 pm
by Anon
She could still have trauma from the death of her father in the fire. Delicious yandere action, anyone?

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:42 pm
by lurk moar
Guest22 wrote:In terms of canon, devs/writers should check the wikipedia page, it says Rin's arms were amputated due to a birth defect, which is wrong IMO... I cannot recall any inherited defects that warrant amputation, mostly injury and infection/gangrene, but not defects.
They don't have to be inherited, birth defects cam arise from a variety of factors, and work in strange ways.

Remember that Hanako's entire side is covered with burn scars. Even if she could afford reconstructive surgery, she might still have some sort of psychological complex. I'm willing to accept a simple "there are complications that make it unfeasible to conduct reconstructive surgery on Hanako."

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:10 pm
by Guest22
Guest wrote:How could you not love the scars?
Without them she wouldn't be Hanako.
She would be just another shy anime girl that holds little to no significance.
True, true... Its what makes her unique.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:13 pm
by Guest22
lurk moar wrote:
Guest22 wrote:In terms of canon, devs/writers should check the wikipedia page, it says Rin's arms were amputated due to a birth defect, which is wrong IMO... I cannot recall any inherited defects that warrant amputation, mostly injury and infection/gangrene, but not defects.
They don't have to be inherited, birth defects cam arise from a variety of factors, and work in strange ways.

Remember that Hanako's entire side is covered with burn scars. Even if she could afford reconstructive surgery, she might still have some sort of psychological complex. I'm willing to accept a simple "there are complications that make it unfeasible to conduct reconstructive surgery on Hanako."
The money factor is definately a deterring one... as the price tag is up to the level of celebrities' budgets.

and yeah... the psychological complex would definately be a problem, one that might... or would, persist her entire lifetime, but as long Hisao is there for her, then she's happy

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:46 pm
by Wreckusu
Guest22 wrote:
Guest Poster wrote:RAITA called Rin a thalidomide child. The current canon simply calls it a birth defect and surgery.
Like what was previously said, thalidomide was used a long time back as a morning sickness. Thal can cause shortening of BOTH arms and legs, or a one pair of limbs, so I agree...

In terms of canon, devs/writers should check the wikipedia page, it says Rin's arms were amputated due to a birth defect, which is wrong IMO... I cannot recall any inherited defects that warrant amputation, mostly injury and infection/gangrene, but not defects.
Well as stated it doesn't have to be inherited. At any rate depending on the defect the decision to amputate simply could have been made to give her a better quality of life. I can't think of anything offhand that might warrant this for the arms but I remember a story about a young girl who had a leg amputated below the knee because a condition early in life had resulted in multiple fractures causing one leg to be 7cm shorter than the other one. Odd as it may be sometimes it's actually better to chop shit off than try and live with defective limbs.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:12 pm
by Guest22
Wreckusu wrote:
Guest22 wrote:
Guest Poster wrote:RAITA called Rin a thalidomide child. The current canon simply calls it a birth defect and surgery.
Like what was previously said, thalidomide was used a long time back as a morning sickness. Thal can cause shortening of BOTH arms and legs, or a one pair of limbs, so I agree...

In terms of canon, devs/writers should check the wikipedia page, it says Rin's arms were amputated due to a birth defect, which is wrong IMO... I cannot recall any inherited defects that warrant amputation, mostly injury and infection/gangrene, but not defects.
Well as stated it doesn't have to be inherited. At any rate depending on the defect the decision to amputate simply could have been made to give her a better quality of life. I can't think of anything offhand that might warrant this for the arms but I remember a story about a young girl who had a leg amputated below the knee because a condition early in life had resulted in multiple fractures causing one leg to be 7cm shorter than the other one. Odd as it may be sometimes it's actually better to chop shit off than try and live with defective limbs.
There are certain inherited conditions affecting bones at young age, but mostly are treated with bone shortening/lengthening... but, yeah, good point, its sometimes better to literally cut shit off lol...

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:21 pm
by DESU
if you don't love hanako scars and all, then you don't love hanako.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:39 pm
by Merlyn_LeRoy
For what it's worth, an online LA law firm that specializes in amputation cases says "Four-percent (4%) of amputations are surgically performed because of birth defects or congenital deformities. Another four-percent of the Los Angeles amputations are preventative and used to reduce or eliminate bone or muscle tumors from spreading."

So it's not the most common cause, but non-zero. Tumors, exposed bones, or other possibilities of infection would justify amputation at birth, I'd say.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:46 pm
by EternalLurker
Guest wrote:How could you not love the scars?
Without them she wouldn't be Hanako.
She would be just another shy anime girl that holds little to no significance.
I thought KS was NOT about defining people by their disabilities. Holy shit, dude.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:07 pm
by Aura
KS defines people by their disabilities approximately as much as Kanon defines people by their speech idiosyncrasies. What anyone gets out of it is left as an exercise for the reader.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:34 pm
by anotherguest
russianspy1234 wrote:presumably KS doesnt take place in the present because rin is a thalidomide baby and it was discontinued in 1961
Life of Pi, which Hanako is reading in the library, wasn't published until 2001.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 pm
by G3n0c1de
The game takes place in 2007.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:14 am
by DESU
anotherguest wrote:
russianspy1234 wrote:presumably KS doesnt take place in the present because rin is a thalidomide baby and it was discontinued in 1961
Life of Pi, which Hanako is reading in the library, wasn't published until 2001.
she was reading life of Pi?
how do I not catch these things?

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:36 am
by Caesius
I have seen someone walking around my university who has severe burn scars on his entire face. Not "lol barbeque'd" like Hanako, but post-reconstructive surgery scars. He looks a lot like this woman.

Simply put, there will probably not be a point in Hanako's life where she will have "no scars." They might become less barbeque'd but they'd still be pretty obvious.

Re: Hanako's no-scars ending?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:37 am
by Spindrift
DESU wrote:
anotherguest wrote: Life of Pi, which Hanako is reading in the library, wasn't published until 2001.
she was reading life of Pi?
how do I not catch these things?
Hisao only ends up asking her what she's reading if you take the HI HANAKO MY NAME IS HISAO DON'T MIND MY VOLUME option.