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Looks always make a noticeable first impression, if you see someone who's clean, attentive, confident, shiny white smile, business suit, walking tall and proud, you assume he's more respectable than someone who's dirty, yellow teeth, pants around their knees, wifebeater, oversized shoes, oversized chain necklaces, wears hat backwards and sunglasses indoors(swagfags). I won't lie, I'm shallow enough that if I see you and you're unattractive to me, I will NOT develop a relationship or sexual interest in you, but I won't mind getting to know you/be friends. I don't want to date the creepy girl from grudge with the #1 personality in the world, likewise I don't want to date the sex goddess who's a total bitch. In the end I may weigh personality and intelligence above physical attraction, but there's a minimum requirement for that physical attraction that you just gotta meet for me to find you appealing. It may be shallow of me to think that way, but that's the way it is. Especially considering the fact I'm not exactly prince charming myself, I'd rate myself as 5-6/10, personality and intelligence are nothing special, so I don't expect to ever catch "the girl of my dreams" because even if I found someone I thought was perfect or close to it, why the fuck would they go for someone like me, when they are easily capable of snagging an 8-9/10.

>Self esteem

Shail wrote:Looks always make a noticeable first impression, if you see someone who's clean, attentive, confident, shiny white smile, business suit, walking tall and proud, you assume he's more respectable than someone who's dirty, yellow teeth, pants around their knees, wifebeater, oversized shoes, oversized chain necklaces, wears hat backwards and sunglasses indoors(swagfags). I won't lie, I'm shallow enough that if I see you and you're unattractive to me, I will NOT develop a relationship or sexual interest in you, but I won't mind getting to know you/be friends. I don't want to date the creepy girl from grudge with the #1 personality in the world, likewise I don't want to date the sex goddess who's a total bitch. In the end I may weigh personality and intelligence above physical attraction, but there's a minimum requirement for that physical attraction that you just gotta meet for me to find you appealing. It may be shallow of me to think that way, but that's the way it is. Especially considering the fact I'm not exactly prince charming myself, I'd rate myself as 5-6/10, personality and intelligence are nothing special, so I don't expect to ever catch "the girl of my dreams" because even if I found someone I thought was perfect or close to it, why the fuck would they go for someone like me, when they are easily capable of snagging an 8-9/10.

>Self esteem

And you're most likely selling yourself short. (Robins glaring at me for that) besides you'd be surprised how many girls I know go for personality first.

At leastwhere I am anyway

Shail wrote:Looks always make a noticeable first impression, if you see someone who's clean, attentive, confident, shiny white smile, business suit, walking tall and proud, you assume he's more respectable than someone who's dirty, yellow teeth, pants around their knees, wifebeater, oversized shoes, oversized chain necklaces, wears hat backwards and sunglasses indoors(swagfags). I won't lie, I'm shallow enough that if I see you and you're unattractive to me, I will NOT develop a relationship or sexual interest in you, but I won't mind getting to know you/be friends. I don't want to date the creepy girl from grudge with the #1 personality in the world, likewise I don't want to date the sex goddess who's a total bitch. In the end I may weigh personality and intelligence above physical attraction, but there's a minimum requirement for that physical attraction that you just gotta meet for me to find you appealing. It may be shallow of me to think that way, but that's the way it is. Especially considering the fact I'm not exactly prince charming myself, I'd rate myself as 5-6/10, personality and intelligence are nothing special, so I don't expect to ever catch "the girl of my dreams" because even if I found someone I thought was perfect or close to it, why the fuck would they go for someone like me, when they are easily capable of snagging an 8-9/10.

>Self esteem

I'm the type of guy who prefers personality over looks. I don't care if you're the most beautiful woman in the world, if you're a conceited, rude, selfish, ignorant, unyielding person, I won't even look at you. If you have a really beautiful personality, and is "look-at able" per say, I might fall in love with you. How do I define look-at able...

A person you can handle looking at. This may vary from person to person. Some people could handle looking at a person with burns as bad or worse than Hanako, some people can't. However, if your personality greatly outweighs your physical appearance, then who cares how you look. You're are just too good of a person. Now it's a matter of if you'll find someone like that. This I assume is very rare.

So no, I don't think you're shallow at all. If they are going for someone like you, then there's something about you that they see and like. Sure she could get someone better, but she chose you cause you're the one she wants. You were fortunate enough to get the girl of your dreams, you should take her. It's the girl of your dreams after all. She's perfect for you, and likely, you're perfect for her as well if she chose you. Got to appreciate what you get, and appreciate what you can get.

ZXNova wrote:

Shail wrote:Looks always make a noticeable first impression, if you see someone who's clean, attentive, confident, shiny white smile, business suit, walking tall and proud, you assume he's more respectable than someone who's dirty, yellow teeth, pants around their knees, wifebeater, oversized shoes, oversized chain necklaces, wears hat backwards and sunglasses indoors(swagfags). I won't lie, I'm shallow enough that if I see you and you're unattractive to me, I will NOT develop a relationship or sexual interest in you, but I won't mind getting to know you/be friends. I don't want to date the creepy girl from grudge with the #1 personality in the world, likewise I don't want to date the sex goddess who's a total bitch. In the end I may weigh personality and intelligence above physical attraction, but there's a minimum requirement for that physical attraction that you just gotta meet for me to find you appealing. It may be shallow of me to think that way, but that's the way it is. Especially considering the fact I'm not exactly prince charming myself, I'd rate myself as 5-6/10, personality and intelligence are nothing special, so I don't expect to ever catch "the girl of my dreams" because even if I found someone I thought was perfect or close to it, why the fuck would they go for someone like me, when they are easily capable of snagging an 8-9/10.

>Self esteem

I'm the type of guy who prefers personality over looks. I don't care if you're the most beautiful woman in the world, if you're a conceited, rude, selfish, ignorant, unyielding person, I won't even look at you. If you have a really beautiful personality, and is "look-at able" per say, I might fall in love with you. How do I define look-at able...

A person you can handle looking at. This may vary from person to person. Some people could handle looking at a person with burns as bad or worse than Hanako, some people can't. However, if your personality greatly outweighs your physical appearance, then who cares how you look. You're are just too good of a person. Now it's a matter of if you'll find someone like that. This I assume is very rare.

So no, I don't think you're shallow at all. If they are going for someone like you, then there's something about you that they see and like. Sure she could get someone better, but she chose you cause you're the one she wants. You were fortunate enough to get the girl of your dreams, you should take her. It's the girl of your dreams after all. She's perfect for you, and likely, you're perfect for her as well if she chose you. Got to appreciate what you get, and appreciate what you can get.

THANK YOU! I've been telling simmr001 that for 2 years. Nice to have someone back me up

ZXNova wrote:

Shail wrote:Looks always make a noticeable first impression, if you see someone who's clean, attentive, confident, shiny white smile, business suit, walking tall and proud, you assume he's more respectable than someone who's dirty, yellow teeth, pants around their knees, wifebeater, oversized shoes, oversized chain necklaces, wears hat backwards and sunglasses indoors(swagfags). I won't lie, I'm shallow enough that if I see you and you're unattractive to me, I will NOT develop a relationship or sexual interest in you[...]

I'm the type of guy who prefers personality over looks. I don't care if you're the most beautiful woman in the world, if you're a conceited, rude, selfish, ignorant, unyielding person, I won't even look at you[...]

Glad to see people with more reasonable, not-whiteknight opinions. Because there are a lot of people that say that looks don't matter at all, but I know for a fact that it's not true. Like you said, you have to be able to stand looking at them.

For me, I like having a girl that I don't have to lie to to compliment on about something physical. That doesn't mean that every physical aspect of them has to be perfect, but I like being able to say "Wow, your hair is so pretty" or "Your eyes are stunning" or "You have just the cutest nose~" without feeling like I'm lying. And like the others, there is a certain unknown minimum of appearance.
I also don't want a girl that's significantly larger than me, whether vertically or horizontally. A girl that's much taller than me makes me feel intimidated, and there's no way around the awkwardness, especially because it would make one of my favorite things to do -- stand behind her and hug her from behind -- really hard. A girl that's either built huge or is very overweight would make the physical stuff harder, like putting an arm around her shoulder or making my hands meet when I hug her from behind.

I do hold personality pretty high, but not as high as you guys because I'm so unsure of who I am, so who am I to judge the personalities of other people? Besides, you learn so much about somebody when you date them, so you can't have a full grasp of their personality anyway.

What I still don't get is how girls are attracted to me. Like, I mean, human females are actually attracted to me. Girls. Girls girls. I don't understand.

Topham wrote: What I still don't get is how girls are attracted to me. Like, I mean, human females are actually attracted to me. Girls. Girls girls. I don't understand.

Oh shit I totally know this feeling... Like I've had 3 girlfriends in my 20 years of being a guy... I don't know how that happens

Let me be a little more specific. One personality aspect the girl must have is that they must "take care of themselves". Like, they clean themselves, groomed, coordinated, they actually try to make themselves look presentable. Physical aspects matter less. Can't do anything about half of your face being burned, but you can do something about the bumps in your face because you barely clean it. See what I mean? I'm sure this is what many people meant by "personality over appearance". If they have a nice personality, they should also have a nice appearance as far as taking care of themselves.

Anyway...

You've been playing too much KS if you're always searching for a cloud.

Jobriq wrote:

Topham wrote: What I still don't get is how girls are attracted to me. Like, I mean, human females are actually attracted to me. Girls. Girls girls. I don't understand.

Oh shit I totally know this feeling... Like I've had 3 girlfriends in my 20 years of being a guy... I don't know how that happens

What happened before that? :o

ZXNova wrote: You've been playing too much KS if you're always searching for a cloud.

I cannot resist.

Sea wrote:

ZXNova wrote: You've been playing too much KS if you're always searching for a cloud.

I cannot resist.

That was my avatar sometime at the start of the year. Glad to see it again.

Sea wrote:

ZXNova wrote: You've been playing too much KS if you're always searching for a cloud.

I cannot resist.
*Best thing*

Best thing.

This might have been posted but...

...When you label an entire disability by character name.

Was at a gaming convention and the hotel I stayed at was holding a deaf convention at the same time. My immediate thought was "look, its a Shizune conference". Had to hold myself back from saying it out-loud to my friends.

You play too much KS when...

Wait, none of you play KS enough! I've been wanting to talk about specific scenes in Grid 1 and how they compare to the final version for the longest time now.

Even after 10 months of knowing about it all, and over 7 Hanako good ending replays, I'm still ready for more. Somehow it has just become something I can move through myself over and over again. I don't think I've ever been happier in my life.

Isn't it forbidden to talk about grid1?

I saw someone somewhere respond negative to that. I'm going by that. I didn't see anyone official complaining about the Grid 1 thread...