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Well everyone dies. It a matter of how and when that makes the difference. Big difference between Saki dying alone five years later than Saki dying 20 years later having been truly loved.

Negativedarke wrote:Well everyone dies. It a matter of how and when that makes the difference. Big difference between Saki dying alone five years later than Saki dying 20 years later having been truly loved.

Or Saki dying 50 years later still remembering the guy who died of a heart attack 45 years before.

Negativedarke wrote:Rin- Would be confused by the concept of a bucket list.

Rin just wants the bucket.

Charmant wrote:- She holds her liquor better than Kenji

Somehow I don't believe that. We know she sucks at holding a few glasses of wine, when Kenji can make it halfway through a bottle of whiskey.

brythain wrote:

Negativedarke wrote:Well everyone dies. It a matter of how and when that makes the difference. Big difference between Saki dying alone five years later than Saki dying 20 years later having been truly loved.

Or Saki dying 50 years later still remembering the guy who died of a heart attack 45 years before.

See we can be such cheerful sorts.

Also I think Lilly and Saki are friends. Not as close as say, Lilly and Hanako, but Saki is on the contacts list for Lilly's cellphone.

Negativedarke wrote:Also I think Lilly and Saki are friends. Not as close as say, Lilly and Hanako, but Saki is on the contacts list for Lilly's cellphone.

Actually, that was indeed one of my headcanon possibilities. Both of them went to the same parochial Catholic school, but when Saki discovered her disease, she decided to lose her virginity ASAP and this was the source of a division between the two friends. See, both of them had a healthy adolescent sex drive, but Saki acted on it and Lilly repressed it. They're still friends, but... ah well.

Edit: Saki and Lilly both left the Catholic school after junior high and entered Yamaku—Saki because of the disease, Lilly because of the boarding facilities, since Akira was increasingly busy and could no longer ferry her to school and back.

bhtooefr wrote:

Charmant wrote:- She holds her liquor better than Kenji

Somehow I don't believe that. We know she sucks at holding a few glasses of wine, when Kenji can make it halfway through a bottle of whiskey.

Obviously she would develop a tolerance.

brythain: Sounds entirely too likely...Poor Saki. And poor brainwashed Lilly.

brythain wrote:

Negativedarke wrote:Also I think Lilly and Saki are friends. Not as close as say, Lilly and Hanako, but Saki is on the contacts list for Lilly's cellphone.

Actually, that was indeed one of my headcanon possibilities. Both of them went to the same parochial Catholic school, but when Saki discovered her disease, she decided to lose her virginity ASAP and this was the source of a division between the two friends. See, both of them had a healthy adolescent sex drive, but Saki acted on it and Lilly repressed it. They're still friends, but... ah well.

And if Hisao's with Lilly Saki ends up hearing about their things at the cottage and teases the hell out of Lilly on it

Steinherz wrote:

brythain wrote:

Negativedarke wrote:Also I think Lilly and Saki are friends. Not as close as say, Lilly and Hanako, but Saki is on the contacts list for Lilly's cellphone.

Actually, that was indeed one of my headcanon possibilities. Both of them went to the same parochial Catholic school, but when Saki discovered her disease, she decided to lose her virginity ASAP and this was the source of a division between the two friends. See, both of them had a healthy adolescent sex drive, but Saki acted on it and Lilly repressed it. They're still friends, but... ah well.

And if Hisao's with Lilly Saki ends up hearing about their things at the cottage and teases the hell out of Lilly on it

Waaaiiiit a sec. IIRC, that catholic school was a single-sex boarding school, right?
If that's the case, then who would Saki lose her virginity to, exactly?

New headcanon for ya

Unless, of course, she just waited until she arrived at Yamaku or something

Alpacalypse wrote: If that's the case, then who would Saki lose her virginity to, exactly?

Unless the school’s in the middle of nowhere I’m sure she could find a boy to do the horizontal monster mash with, I do think she regrets acting so rashly though, in hindsight she would have lost it to someone she loves. Like Hisao =P

Gajzla wrote:

Alpacalypse wrote: If that's the case, then who would Saki lose her virginity to, exactly?

Unless the school’s in the middle of nowhere I’m sure she could find a boy to do the horizontal monster mash with, I do think she regrets acting so rashly though, in hindsight she would have lost it to someone she loves. Like Hisao =P

*gasps* MAYBE IT WAS THE TEACHER LILLY HAD A CRUSH ON!

Steinherz wrote:

Gajzla wrote:

Alpacalypse wrote: If that's the case, then who would Saki lose her virginity to, exactly?

Unless the school’s in the middle of nowhere I’m sure she could find a boy to do the horizontal monster mash with, I do think she regrets acting so rashly though, in hindsight she would have lost it to someone she loves. Like Hisao =P

*gasps* MAYBE IT WAS THE TEACHER LILLY HAD A CRUSH ON!

Holy shit, other than being kinda fucked up that's an amazing story line. Is it bad that I have this picture of Lilly finding out and challenging Saki to a cane v. cane death match?

Steinherz wrote:

Gajzla wrote:

Alpacalypse wrote: If that's the case, then who would Saki lose her virginity to, exactly?

Unless the school’s in the middle of nowhere I’m sure she could find a boy to do the horizontal monster mash with, I do think she regrets acting so rashly though, in hindsight she would have lost it to someone she loves. Like Hisao =P

*gasps* MAYBE IT WAS THE TEACHER LILLY HAD A CRUSH ON!

No, it wasn't. You're all missing the obvious.

1. When Hisao arrives, there is a vacancy in the classroom.
2. For some reason, Shizune the Student Council president is also 3-3's class rep.
3. The guy in the middle of the class in early 3-3 yearbook drafts is different just before Hisao arrives.

This earlier guy is the same guy Saki was with prior to entering Yamaku. He was from a nearby boys-only school and followed her to Yamaku.

Saki was 3-3's class rep, and when she eventually ended up pregnant in the course of her relationship with (let's call him) Lelouche, she ended up in hospital and then was sent home to look after the kid. Lelouche married her and they're off raising the little heir. Saki's tragedy is looming on the horizon for them. Hisao knows nothing about it, but you can understand the tensions that were heightened when Shizune appointed herself class rep—not unusual in this case, but still...

Every time Shizune refers to Lilly as 'not the class rep of 3-3', Lilly feels really hurt. She somehow feels that she let Saki down, even though it's not her fault that things have turned out that way. Hanako spends a lot of time reassuring Lilly that it's all right. Of course, they never talk about it in front of Hisao, who is now occupying Saki's seat in the class and wonders why people keep looking at his desk wistfully.

Gajzla wrote:

Alpacalypse wrote: If that's the case, then who would Saki lose her virginity to, exactly?

Unless the school’s in the middle of nowhere I’m sure she could find a boy to do the horizontal monster mash with, I do think she regrets acting so rashly though, in hindsight she would have lost it to someone she loves. Like Hisao =P

In an ideal world, yes. But Hisao is cool with that in at least one timeline, and they actually have a warm relationship and two kids before Saki is unable to move much. Hisao eventually ends up as a widower with two kids who need looking after, and that is when Lilly comes back into his life...

Gajzla wrote:

Steinherz wrote:

Gajzla wrote:Unless the school’s in the middle of nowhere I’m sure she could find a boy to do the horizontal monster mash with, I do think she regrets acting so rashly though, in hindsight she would have lost it to someone she loves. Like Hisao =P

*gasps* MAYBE IT WAS THE TEACHER LILLY HAD A CRUSH ON!

Holy shit, other than being kinda fucked up that's an amazing story line. Is it bad that I have this picture of Lilly finding out and challenging Saki to a cane v. cane death match?

Lilly: "Sensei is mine!"
Saki: "Too late~"
*CANE DUEL*