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Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:13 am
by Gajzla
Katawa Shoujo: Where waking up to find your girlfriend dead is the good ending.

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:20 am
by brythain
Alpacalypse wrote:Also, IIRC, spinocerebellar ataxia rarely kills somebody in under 5 years and, if she can still get around on a cane, then it seems likely that Saki's only in early stages, so that route would end up being really, really long (please correct me if I'm wrong on that) :P
Well, my main source is here. In my headcanon, it's SCA-1, common in Japan.

Summary here: onset age 4 to 74 yrs, course— disabled 5 years after onset, bedridden 10 years after onset, death 10 to 20 years after onset. So if she started young, well... she knows the story. :(

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:43 am
by Alpacalypse
brythain wrote:
Alpacalypse wrote:Also, IIRC, spinocerebellar ataxia rarely kills somebody in under 5 years and, if she can still get around on a cane, then it seems likely that Saki's only in early stages, so that route would end up being really, really long (please correct me if I'm wrong on that) :P
Well, my main source is here. In my headcanon, it's SCA-1, common in Japan.

Summary here: onset age 4 to 74 yrs, course— disabled 5 years after onset, bedridden 10 years after onset, death 10 to 20 years after onset. So if she started young, well... she knows the story. :(
Fair enough, but by that description, she's still in the "Disabled" stage, so I doubt she'd die that soon.

It would make for what would probably be the most depressing route in KS, though.
I second Gajzla on that front.

Either way, thank you for clarifying that, I read the material that I did on the subject quite a while ago, so it's not hugely surprising I forgot quite a lot of it :roll:

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:53 am
by brythain
You're very welcome... this is the headcanon thread after all, so I was just sharing the path I took to get there. :)
Alpacalypse wrote:Fair enough, but by that description, she's still in the "Disabled" stage, so I doubt she'd die that soon.
Ah, yes. Well, headcanon again — Saki actually has onset around 8 years (which would be in 1997), but no one notices. What follows can be found in Natsume's arc in my headcanon here, if you're interested in some Saki-based sadness.

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:27 am
by Alpacalypse
brythain wrote:You're very welcome... this is the headcanon thread after all, so I was just sharing the path I took to get there. :)
Alpacalypse wrote:Fair enough, but by that description, she's still in the "Disabled" stage, so I doubt she'd die that soon.
Ah, yes. Well, headcanon again — Saki actually has onset around 8 years (which would be in 1997), but no one notices. What follows can be found in Natsume's arc in my headcanon here, if you're interested in some Saki-based sadness.
Goddammit, and I was having such a happy day, too :lol:
Now, I just need to figure out which order I'm supposed to read AtD in... and find a spare fortnight to read it... this might take a while.

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:29 am
by YutoTheOrc
brythain wrote: What follows can be found in Natsume's arc in my headcanon here, if you're interested in some Saki-based sadness.
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Its a feels trap! :D

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:10 pm
by Steinherz
Alpacalypse wrote:
brythain wrote:
Alpacalypse wrote:Also, IIRC, spinocerebellar ataxia rarely kills somebody in under 5 years and, if she can still get around on a cane, then it seems likely that Saki's only in early stages, so that route would end up being really, really long (please correct me if I'm wrong on that) :P
Well, my main source is here. In my headcanon, it's SCA-1, common in Japan.

Summary here: onset age 4 to 74 yrs, course— disabled 5 years after onset, bedridden 10 years after onset, death 10 to 20 years after onset. So if she started young, well... she knows the story. :(
Fair enough, but by that description, she's still in the "Disabled" stage, so I doubt she'd die that soon.

It would make for what would probably be the most depressing route in KS, though.
I second Gajzla on that front.

Either way, thank you for clarifying that, I read the material that I did on the subject quite a while ago, so it's not hugely surprising I forgot quite a lot of it :roll:
However, there ARE non-lethal versions of SCA. But no one here seems to notice/care about them :lol:

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:28 pm
by Rhodri
While we’re on the subject of Saki and the nature of her ‘good’ end, first I’ll give you basics on my idea for a Saki route.


Hisao joins the photography club and develops a habit of taking a camera everywhere he goes. When the club decides to do a joint project with the art club, he meets Saki. After club activities one day, she challenges him (in this route, he would be physically weak) to climb the hill behind the school with her. Both are completely exhausted when they reach the top during the golden hour of sunset. Saki is proud of their achievement and further elaborates that she dreams of climbing a mountain one day. Hisao takes a photo of her as she stands defiantly in the evening light. In that moment, he falls for her. At the resolution of the route, Saki reveals the mountain climb is an item on her vast bucket list. They vow to complete it together.

Epilogue

Hisao is at the summit of Mount Zao. At just over 6000ft, it is the highest mountain in Miyagi Prefecture (and around 20 or so miles from where Yamaku would roughly be). He pulls out the bucket list, crosses off the final item ‘climb a mountain’, puts it in a framed collage and places it at the base of a small cairn he has built, on top of which is Saki’s crutch. Tears welling up, Hisao mutters “We’ve done it Saki” and leaves. Focus on the collage, which shows all of their globetrotting adventures together and Saki’s gradual deterioration e.g. standing in front of Itsukushima Shrine during Tanabata, climbing Sydney Harbour Bridge, swimming with dolphins, Hisao carrying a laughing Saki up the steps of Montmartre, Saki in a wheelchair with a nasal cannula posing next to a Foot Guardsman, defiantly smiling while surrounded by Hisao and her family at her deathbed etc.

At the centre of the collage: the photo that Hisao took all those years ago: Saki on top of the hill in all her radiant beauty. Fade to white.

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:44 pm
by Eurobeatjester
Rhodri wrote:While we’re on the subject of Saki and the nature of her ‘good’ end, first I’ll give you basics on my idea for a Saki route.


Hisao joins the photography club and develops a habit of taking a camera everywhere he goes. When the club decides to do a joint project with the art club, he meets Saki. After club activities one day, she challenges him (in this route, he would be physically weak) to climb the hill behind the school with her. Both are completely exhausted when they reach the top during the golden hour of sunset. Saki is proud of their achievement and further elaborates that she dreams of climbing a mountain one day. Hisao takes a photo of her as she stands defiantly in the evening light. In that moment, he falls for her. At the resolution of the route, Saki reveals the mountain climb is an item on her vast bucket list. They vow to complete it together.

Epilogue

Hisao is at the summit of Mount Zao. At just over 6000ft, it is the highest mountain in Miyagi Prefecture (and around 20 or so miles from where Yamaku would roughly be). He pulls out the bucket list, crosses off the final item ‘climb a mountain’, puts it in a framed collage and places it at the base of a small cairn he has built, on top of which is Saki’s crutch. Tears welling up, Hisao mutters “We’ve done it Saki” and leaves. Focus on the collage, which shows all of their globetrotting adventures together and Saki’s gradual deterioration e.g. standing in front of Itsukushima Shrine during Tanabata, climbing Sydney Harbour Bridge, swimming with dolphins, Hisao carrying a laughing Saki up the steps of Montmartre, Saki in a wheelchair with a nasal cannula posing next to a Foot Guardsman, defiantly smiling while surrounded by Hisao and her family at her deathbed etc.

At the centre of the collage: the photo that Hisao took all those years ago: Saki on the top of the hill in all her radiant beauty. Fade to white.
Is her urn a Chock Full O Nuts can?

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:46 pm
by Rhodri
Am I missing something with that?

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:54 pm
by Gajzla
Rhodri wrote:Am I missing something with that?
Big spoilers for the Bucket list.

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:57 pm
by YutoTheOrc
I like your idea Rhodri, but it takes more than a few things from Bucket list :)

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:59 pm
by Eurobeatjester
Rhodri wrote:Am I missing something with that?
It's from a movie with Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman.

During the movie both characters are completing a bucket list together, and one mentions to the other that he's perfectly fine with a Chock Full O Nuts coffee can as his urn, and also that he wants to climb a mountain.

Gajzla posted the relevant clip :) If you haven't seen the movie, it's amazing. I highly recommend it.

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:03 pm
by Oscar Wildecat
YutoTheOrc wrote:I like your idea Rhodri, but it takes more than a few things from Bucket list :)
Well, given that The Bucket List was released in 2007, I could see it inspiring our hypothetical Hisao x Saki to write one of their own... :wink:

Re: The Official KS Headcanon Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:08 pm
by Rhodri
Oh. God. Fucking. Damn. It.

Its like the time I had this amazing sci-fi dream that stuck with me for ages, only to realise a few years ago that it was a knock off of Dune. I hadn't even heard of it when I had that dream! Seriously, this is real disheartening.
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That is one film I am NEVER gonna watch now. I remember the trailers for it, but never seen it.

I came up with the whole mountain idea from an experience when I went up Snowdon 6 years ago. I saw a picture memorialising a mountain hiker which been placed on the cairn at the summit