Emi ending (spoilers for days)

[Potato]

Congrats Spunky, you lured out a dev.

[brythain]

Congrats Spunky, you lured out a dev.

And Emi's 'godfather' to boot.

[SpunkySix]

Congrats Spunky, you lured out a dev.

And I'm kind of honored.

If you're still around and you have the time... anything in particular that interested you, Hivemind? I'm sure being the author of something so complicated to write comes with its own expectations and hopes for audience reactions, and I'm sure they don't always match up perfectly.

[Pandas]

Oh gosh,
The Emi creator.
And ofcourse now I look like the jerk who didn't enjoy his character.
All i can say is
Respect to you and Spunky has convinced me
We cool dude<3

[TheHivemind]

If you're still around and you have the time... anything in particular that interested you, Hivemind? I'm sure being the author of something so complicated to write comes with its own expectations and hopes for audience reactions, and I'm sure they don't always match up perfectly.

Mostly it's just interesting to see how much thought other people put into the characters. Sometimes it lines up with what I thought, sometimes it doesn't--Emi asking Hisao to stay, for example, was conceived of as a big deal. There was a draft of the path where it was made more explicit that Hisao went back to his room after each sexual encounter (there were more of those, or at least more talk of those, as well), but it was one of the things that was cut/reworked and made less obvious. Also that Emi is more dealing with a mental trauma rather than a physical one--although privately, I always assumed she'd sort herself out on her own, given enough time (another thing made explicit in a deleted scene after her bad end). My word, if you managed to pull this much out of a character like Emi, I wonder what you'd do with a better written one.

Oh gosh,
The Emi creator.
And ofcourse now I look like the jerk who didn't enjoy his character.
All i can say is
Respect to you and Spunky has convinced me
We cool dude<3

Not liking Emi is hardly something that will get anyone on my bad side. Sometimes characters don't connect with the reader, and that's just the way things are.

[SpunkySix]

If you're still around and you have the time... anything in particular that interested you, Hivemind? I'm sure being the author of something so complicated to write comes with its own expectations and hopes for audience reactions, and I'm sure they don't always match up perfectly.

Mostly it's just interesting to see how much thought other people put into the characters. Sometimes it lines up with what I thought, sometimes it doesn't--Emi asking Hisao to stay, for example, was conceived of as a big deal. There was a draft of the path where it was made more explicit that Hisao went back to his room after each sexual encounter (there were more of those, or at least more talk of those, as well), but it was one of the things that was cut/reworked and made less obvious. Also that Emi is more dealing with a mental trauma rather than a physical one--although privately, I always assumed she'd sort herself out on her own, given enough time (another thing made explicit in a deleted scene after her bad end). My word, if you managed to pull this much out of a character like Emi, I wonder what you'd do with a better written one.

Alright, well thanks. Not just for taking an interest in my post and the time to respond, but for writing up the path and character as well. Sometimes I think you guys on the 4LS staff don't give yourselves enough credit.

[Pandas]

Not too get TOO off topic, but does anyone know who wrote Hanako's character.
Or Rin?
They're my two favorite so i'd really be interested in knowing who they are atleast.

[d2r]

Not too get TOO off topic, but does anyone know who wrote Hanako's character.
Or Rin?
They're my two favorite so i'd really be interested in knowing who they are atleast.

Cpl_crud and Suriko wrote Hanako, Aura wrote Rin.

[Ritter Delorges]

I'm aware what nonsensical means.
Meaning it makes no sense or it's ridiculous in nature.
I'm pointing VERY harshly at the toolshed scene.
I realize it's kind of a more "crazy fantasy" type of thing. But neither of them enjoyed it really due to it being awkward and painful for Emi. It was very ridiculous in nature that they'd put in such a weird scene. If anything i got a good laugh out of it but it seemed quite useless to put in.

I think the important part of the shed scene is the aftermath. It starts as a relatively contrived "porn" scene. Had it gone well, it would have been utterly forgettable. It didn't go well at all, but interestingly the two handled that pretty well. I think that tells us something about their relationship at that point. For that to work you need a certain level of genuine trust, whether they are aware of it or not.

[SpunkySix]

I'm aware what nonsensical means.
Meaning it makes no sense or it's ridiculous in nature.
I'm pointing VERY harshly at the toolshed scene.
I realize it's kind of a more "crazy fantasy" type of thing. But neither of them enjoyed it really due to it being awkward and painful for Emi. It was very ridiculous in nature that they'd put in such a weird scene. If anything i got a good laugh out of it but it seemed quite useless to put in.

I think the important part of the shed scene is the aftermath. It starts as a relatively contrived "porn" scene. Had it gone well, it would have been utterly forgettable. It didn't go well at all, but interestingly the two handled that pretty well. I think that tells us something about their relationship at that point. For that to work you need a certain level of genuine trust, whether they are aware of it or not.

There's that, and also the fact that, yes, the scene was extremely forced and sudden. This was likely intentional and serves to make Hisao's assertion that him and Emi have fallen into a cycle of sex-as-distraction from emotional issues more believable, so that it doesn't seemingly come out of nowhere to the reader. We are shown a clear example of Emi setting up a situation specifically for sex in a contrived, even manipulative manner firsthand. Without that, it would just be Hisao going, "oh yeah, also we bang a lot, maybe even too much" after a single relatively tame scene, which would also feel forced, but in a much less productive way. Notice how quickly after Emi's first H scene the shed scene occurs. It's practically the scene after.

[metalangel]

re
There's that, and also the fact that, yes, the scene was extremely forced and sudden. This was likely intentional and serves to make Hisao's assertion that him and Emi have fallen into a cycle of sex-as-distraction from emotional issues more believable, so that it doesn't seemingly come out of nowhere to the reader...

Notice how quickly after Emi's first H scene the shed scene occurs. It's practically the scene after.

It’s an aspect that I thought made the story feel more real and believable.

The first time with a new partner is always very exciting. Usually afterwards your mind is racing with kinky thoughts and you’re very keen to have another go, as soon as possible.

[SpunkySix]

re
There's that, and also the fact that, yes, the scene was extremely forced and sudden. This was likely intentional and serves to make Hisao's assertion that him and Emi have fallen into a cycle of sex-as-distraction from emotional issues more believable, so that it doesn't seemingly come out of nowhere to the reader...

Notice how quickly after Emi's first H scene the shed scene occurs. It's practically the scene after.

It’s an aspect that I thought made the story feel more real and believable.

The first time with a new partner is always very exciting. Usually afterwards your mind is racing with kinky thoughts and you’re very keen to have another go, as soon as possible.

Ah. Well. That makes sense then.

[Atario]

This made me picture Emi as a stereotypical "gay divorceé", going into sex withdrawals and on the prowl.

"C'meah, honey. You're a cutie, ya know that? Whaddaya doin' laydah awan? Meet me at the track shed? Maybe fworish? Hmm? [flicks cigarette]"

[Potato]

laydah awan?

Wait, why would Emi suddenly forget how to speak properly?

[Atario]

laydah awan?

Wait, why would Emi suddenly forget how to speak properly?

We'll just twok about dwogs, dwoughtas, cwoffee, ya know, no big whoop…