Flutterz wrote:Speaking of art, if you want to get as much enjoyment from VNs as possible, try not to let the art put you off. Clannad's art isn't great, and Kanon's even more so, and they're some of my favourites. And while neither of them seem to be particularly popular on these forums, I'll be utterly shocked if anybody who has read Higurashi no Naku Koro ni says that they didn't like it because of the art.
You're probably right, it's more about the words, anyway. I'll have to give Muv-Luv a try, it's hard to ignore all of the praise it gets.
I guess worthwhile isn't the exactly the right word... Useful might be better. Making conversation and responding to compliments is great, but it doesn't contribute to the topic of VNs with true ends whatsoever.
I guess that's true, it may be more appropriate for chat, but on the other hand this chatting has certainly made me feel welcome despite everyone's claims that they're cruel to newbies. We can chat as long as we also stay on topic, yeah? As someone new to VNs, it's been interesting anyway.
Nobody in Particular wrote:Wouldn't say that Muv-Luv has a true route, unless you include Alternative like Flutterz does, but then that felt more like a direct continuation than anything.
Okay, so I'm new to VNs, but I still struggle with the idea that a continuation, which has to pick one ending by necessity, doesn't count as word-of-god that there's a canon ending. Are you just seeing it as a continuation of that particular route? I have to say that it doesn't bother me as much if just one route is picked, but apparently there are several VNs that have true endings that completely contradict another ending on the same route, the unlockable sort.
Yeah, its referred to as the GOAT VN in both the West and Japan for a reason. Well, Alternative is anyway.
A what? Google doesn't know, either.
As Flutterz said it has a "tedious and boring setup" in the form of the first ML VN, Muv-Luv Extra (which I enjoyed too) but the story quickly gets better as you progress through the rest of the trilogy.
I thought the art was great. Perhaps the best I've seen in a VN after ef.
No accounting for taste, I guess. The best art I've seen so far in a VN that I've played is in Quartett!, though it's a shame the story wasn't very good. I guess I really shouldn't knock it till I try it.
Isn't Clannad one of the most popular VNs on here?
With Higurashi you have that PS2 sprite hack thing which improves the art quality, so if you hate it that much you can resort to that.
Weirdly, the art of Higurashi doesn't bother me at all, and I'm eager to play it. I think with Muv-Luv it's the clashing colors and the angular hair?
Quazzy wrote:I've read Deardrops and as far as I know it doesn't have a true route, but it's generally accepted that Riho's route (if that's how her name is spelled, it's been a while) is the cannon ending by fans. Also been reading KiraKira and from what I can tell the 'true end' is like one choice difference according to the walkthrough I'm using.
It's funny you mention Deardrops, it's going to be my next one, and I know that there's now a crossover VN combining the worlds of Kira✩Kira and Deardrops, and I believe they choose one ending as the true ending for that one, as well. And I don't want to spoil anything for you, but the true end in Kira✩Kira is only accessible after you finish all other routes and play through one of the routes (
Kirari's route) again, and it contradicts the ending of that route that you'd already seen in a big way. I hope to find out it it ends up bothering you as much as it did me.
Hell, a guy on this forum even invented an ending where Hisao dies and goes to Heaven or something to better suit him.
Why do you have to focus on the negative? The real reason that's the true ending is that it is the funniest ending. Untimely death due to loneliness and whiskey (and pretzels), just comedy gold.
